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06-14-2007, 11:59 AM
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A minister MUST be a man of much prayer and fasting. If you don't like praying a lot, find a good job and settle down under a pastor that does.
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It is not worth an intelligent man's time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.
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06-14-2007, 12:00 PM
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A part of this familarity breeds contempt stuff and seperation is what breeds Elitism in the Ministry and their Children...
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06-14-2007, 12:01 PM
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I'm not in the ministry, so probably shouldn't post here.............
but oh well..................
One thing that I've noticed over the years is that the pastors in Apostolic churches tend to form little cliques with each other. And they're usually very careful about forming any real friendships with the saints of their church. Their friends seem to come mostly from others who are in the ministry.
I guess I can understand this, to a point. But on the other hand, are we not ALL called to minister? I would think that if a minister wanted to be successful, he would want to form a strong bond with those he has to work with day in and day out.
Because I have alot of associations with pastors who are outside of Apostolic circles, I can tell you this - in other denominations, there is not that same kind of mentality. Yes, pastors fellowship with one another. But, for instance, in our church, our pastor and his wife both have great friends from here within the church.
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06-14-2007, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by revrandy
Jesus was extremely social....had twelve men with him most of the time.. not a loner... spent a lot of time at folks houses... and travelled frequently...
the reason familiarity breeds contempt is because people find out who you really are.... and if there's contempt there might be reason for you to change...
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Especially if you're not REAL...
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06-14-2007, 12:02 PM
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I'm not saying there weren't times.. but he did travel extensively with the twelve... went to sinners houses and dinners... went to wedding parties...
Part of the reason folks can't get along socialibly is that they will see you for who you are...
and you them...
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Maybe, but there are some aspects of life and ministry that are reserved for a ministers mind alone. There ares some things that we can't even share with our spouse's. That can lead to a feeling of isolation.
A minister is God's man - no one else's.
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06-14-2007, 12:03 PM
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I really didn't want this to be a preacher bashing thread.
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06-14-2007, 12:03 PM
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Especially if you're not REAL...
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*fake smile* *glossed over glare in the eyes* Whatever do you mean?
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06-14-2007, 12:04 PM
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His Eminance, High Potatohead Potatotate
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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster
Maybe, but there are some aspects of life and ministry that are reserved for a ministers mind alone. There ares some things that we can't even share with our spouse's. That can lead to a feeling of isolation.
A minister is God's man - no one else's.
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This part is true..
People tell us things and trust us to keep their trust....
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06-14-2007, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster
I really didn't want this to be a preacher bashing thread.
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You should know better.
Take your licks like a MAN, preacher!!!! 
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06-14-2007, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Margies3
I'm not in the ministry, so probably shouldn't post here.............
but oh well..................
One thing that I've noticed over the years is that the pastors in Apostolic churches tend to form little cliques with each other. And they're usually very careful about forming any real friendships with the saints of their church. Their friends seem to come mostly from others who are in the ministry.
I guess I can understand this, to a point. But on the other hand, are we not ALL called to minister? I would think that if a minister wanted to be successful, he would want to form a strong bond with those he has to work with day in and day out.
Because I have alot of associations with pastors who are outside of Apostolic circles, I can tell you this - in other denominations, there is not that same kind of mentality. Yes, pastors fellowship with one another. But, for instance, in our church, our pastor and his wife both have great friends from here within the church.
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I disagree. Too much friendship between pastors and saints leads to a dilution of spiritual authority. That has nothing to do with elitism. It has to do with Divine order.
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