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So, you don't think people should expect more from those in ministry? How can I follow someone who isn't ahead of me? Paul said, "Follow me as I follow Christ." In order for someone to follow you you have to be out front (ahead.)
Why would you expect more from those in ministry? We're all on this journey together, brother.

Do you think that God works in a more mighty way in the life of a minister than He does in the life of a saint?

I know that you are saying that you shouldn't put the pastor up on a pedestal. But by expecting more of him than you would of yourself or some other saint, you really are.

No wonder saints end up hurt. These men are just as human as anyone else. Trying just as hard. But just as fallible. That's unfair pressure to put on them - expecting more of them than of other saints.
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I'm being serious, Brother. I had this very thing happen to me. In my case I believe it was God correcting my viewpoint on ministry. I can't go into any of the details of what God started showing about this pastor, but I know that I got way too close to him and I had put him way too high on that pedastal. So high, in fact, that he got between me and God. So, I guess the point I am making is threefold.

1) It's important for ministry to be ahead of laity. (spiritually speaking)

2) It's important to not put ministry too awfully high up on a pedastal.

3) It's important for some distance to be between those in ministry and laity.
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Why would you expect more from those in ministry? We're all on this journey together, brother.

Do you think that God works in a more mighty way in the life of a minister than He does in the life of a saint?

I know that you are saying that you shouldn't put the pastor up on a pedestal. But by expecting more of him than you would of yourself or some other saint, you really are.

No wonder saints end up hurt. These men are just as human as anyone else. Trying just as hard. But just as fallible. That's unfair pressure to put on them - expecting more of them than of other saints.

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That line depends on how folks who are in church were brought up... most in UC circles and some moderates the voice of the Preacher is God... and when he or any other preacher falters or fails they are never looked at as the same..
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