Brother Lee Stoneking's Preaching

[Jason B]

Originally Posted by n david

What's misleading about it? He spoke in the General Assembly hall at the UN. There's actual video of him doing so.

http://spiritualabuse.org/issues/unitednations.html

[Jason B]

Originally Posted by 1ofthechosen

This point 100 percent happened. And some of the other things he said about the witches and the long hair I never heard Stoneking say that. Although I have heard Elder Charles Mahaney say that. Nor the story about Bin Ladens wives getting the Holy Ghost and speaking in tongues. Is that a for real quote? Does anyone know?

https://youtu.be/2FAmgwFPvRs

[1ofthechosen]

Originally Posted by Jason B

http://spiritualabuse.org/issues/unitednations.html

IHATEAPOSTOLIC'S.com is a terrible reference for anything.

[1ofthechosen]

Originally Posted by Jason B

https://youtu.be/2FAmgwFPvRs

I mean it's not impossible but when he tells this guy's stories C.P. I noticed they get real out there. Like how this guy got locked up in a room by the Taliban and woke up in his house. Which is on this message about Angels I could find it. Is that impossible absolutely not, but with his track record on telling these passed down stories, I would say it's null and void to me personally. I don't want to doubt but I don't want to agree with mythical fables either, and it's best to just let that one go.

[Jason B]

Originally Posted by 1ofthechosen

IHATEAPOSTOLIC'S.com is a terrible reference for anything.

Certainly that would be the opinion on this forum. There's probably a lot on that site that is subjective opinion or perspective, but not hard facts. However there are certain claims and things that LS (and others) have said, which are undeniably contradictory or outright false. Whether someone left or not doesn't matter, but are the things written/said true? In this case we'd have to say many of the things in the link are factual.

We can say that without rubber stamping the site itself. (Actually I came across this link on a Google search for the stoneking UN pic).

[Jason B]

In summary, I'm not saying LS isn't a Christian, but it does amaze me that there is no accountability.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Jason B

http://spiritualabuse.org/issues/unitednations.html

1) Lois Gibson is a sad, bitter woman who is seething with hate towards not only the UPCI, but new birth apostolics in general.
2) What little I read of the link you provided didn't address much about Stoneking. Instead, the majority of the page centered on Jeffrey Chavis and Art Wilson's alleged inconsistent statements. Even then, it's her very biased opinion with very little to no factual evidence.
3) Get a better source than a woman in danger of damnation.

[1ofthechosen]

Originally Posted by n david

1) Lois Gibson is a sad, bitter woman who is seething with hate towards not only the UPCI, but new birth apostolics in general.
2) What little I read of the link you provided didn't address much about Stoneking. Instead, the majority of the page centered on Jeffrey Chavis and Art Wilson's alleged inconsistent statements. Even then, it's her very biased opinion with very little to no factual evidence.
3) Get a better source than a woman in danger of damnation.

I definitely agree here 100 %, and anyone who goes in as great of lengths to downplay the necessity of the intitial evidence of speaking in tongues when receiving the Holy Ghost is either deceived or ignorant. In her case it's not the latter it's the former. Anyone downplaying or even trying to come against that doctrine that knows first hand about it, and then comes against it, and against those who believe it, is a Reprobate under the control of demonic spirits.

So anything else they would say to me would go in that category, I don't listen to the devil so I'm not going to listen to anyone under the control of one either. She goes at great lengths to tarnish people's legacies. I came across her site when Google searching for Elder Westberg messages. But the lady is capitalizing on reprobates like Jordan and Edwin Young's wrong doings, and trying to ruin Elder Nathan Dudley's and the late Elder Westberg's name, by placing them in articles about Edwing and Jordan Young. Sort of with the thing referred to by NDavid about Brother Stoneking. She uses the garbage pale of the Apostolic movement, as some leverage to bring someone else down. Anything she could say would be omitted instantly for me. Her voice just doesn't count at all in my book. That heretic site probably scares away many people from the truth, and one day she will have to answer for that is all I can say. Almost 9 times out of 10 when someone brings up crazy allegations of use being a cult I find they have ran across this very site. So if you ask me anything it says, or she says, is garbage and totally irellevant to me.

[houston]

I like Lois.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Jason B

True. The Twitter pics that were posted with a pic pulled off Google images of the full UN assembly, a huge crowded room, when really it was just a very few people. They did almost the same thing for LS that MSM did for Hillary rallies. But at least the MSM took a misleading photo from a certain angle, instead of copy and pasting a pic from a totally unrelated event.

Show the evidence. In other words PROVE IT.