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Old 11-09-2018, 03:34 PM
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Re: Brother Lee Stoneking's Preaching

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Where he states that God miraculously removed the marker for hesrt disease from his dna.




I have watched the video Of LS addressing the UN. I have seen it before. There is something that seems a little off to me. When LS describes his blood already coagulating after being clinically dead for forty five minutes, he specifically says that the blood was already coagulating in his hands and arms, as well as his feet and legs . . . after forty five minutes of having no heart-beat. I believe I saw on his website or on another video, that he said he had a large blood clot over or around his heart, and he seemed to be saying that this was caused by the coagulation of blood in his body that was caused by his death.

Now I'm a little puzzled. I have done my share of deer hunting. It seems to me that when I would skin and dress deer, the blood would not be coagulated if there were no air that got to it, for perhaps several hours. Hmmm . . . maybe that's just deer blood. I do realize that if you have a cut or injury that exposes your blood to the air, it will coagulate usually within a matter of minutes. But, obviously the blood inside your body does not coagulate unless you have severe health problems, ie blood clots.

Like I said, it just seemed a little off, and it bothered me, so I did the old fashioned thing. I googled it.

How long does it take for blood to coagulate when you die?

Of course I got a range of answers. From minutes to hours, even days. But the consensus was, of answers that seemed to me to have credibility, that it takes eight hours or more for your blood to begin to coagulate after you die. Until eight or ten hours after death, it is said that a dead man's blood will still be fluid, at least that seems to be the consensus. Longer in the mountains, or in cooler weather, or if the body is refrigerated or held on ice. Interesting!

It leads me to consider the possibility that LS either is wrong about his blood coagulating, or maybe there is something speciall about his blood that causes it to coagulate really fast . . .

Or of course there is the possibility that he . . .




was dead for twelve HOURS! I'm scratching my head on this one.

Color me dubious.
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Old 11-09-2018, 03:59 PM
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Re: Brother Lee Stoneking's Preaching

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I have watched the video Of LS addressing the UN. I have seen it before. There is something that seems a little off to me. When LS describes his blood already coagulating after being clinically dead for forty five minutes, he specifically says that the blood was already coagulating in his hands and arms, as well as his feet and legs . . . after forty five minutes of having no heart-beat. I believe I saw on his website or on another video, that he said he had a large blood clot over or around his heart, and he seemed to be saying that this was caused by the coagulation of blood in his body that was caused by his death.

Now I'm a little puzzled. I have done my share of deer hunting. It seems to me that when I would skin and dress deer, the blood would not be coagulated if there were no air that got to it, for perhaps several hours. Hmmm . . . maybe that's just deer blood. I do realize that if you have a cut or injury that exposes your blood to the air, it will coagulate usually within a matter of minutes. But, obviously the blood inside your body does not coagulate unless you have severe health problems, ie blood clots.

Like I said, it just seemed a little off, and it bothered me, so I did the old fashioned thing. I googled it.

How long does it take for blood to coagulate when you die?

Of course I got a range of answers. From minutes to hours, even days. But the consensus was, of answers that seemed to me to have credibility, that it takes eight hours or more for your blood to begin to coagulate after you die. Until eight or ten hours after death, it is said that a dead man's blood will still be fluid, at least that seems to be the consensus. Longer in the mountains, or in cooler weather, or if the body is refrigerated or held on ice. Interesting!

It leads me to consider the possibility that LS either is wrong about his blood coagulating, or maybe there is something speciall about his blood that causes it to coagulate really fast . . .

Or of course there is the possibility that he . . .




was dead for twelve HOURS! I'm scratching my head on this one.

Color me dubious.

Clot could have existed before his death and was only discovered after.


But good job on the researching.
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Old 11-09-2018, 04:01 PM
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Re: Brother Lee Stoneking's Preaching

Trying to make sense out of a person who lacks credibility is a waste of time. His trumpet has a uncertain sound.
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Old 11-09-2018, 04:04 PM
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Trying to make sense out of a person who lacks credibility is a waste of time. His trumpet has a uncertain sound.
I agree.
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Old 11-09-2018, 04:07 PM
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Clot could have existed before his death and was only discovered after.
Yes, I realize that, but in the video, IIRC, he seemed to tie it into his blood coagulating throughout his body. That is IF I understood correctly.

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But good job on the researching.
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Old 11-09-2018, 06:50 PM
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Trying to make sense out of a person who lacks credibility is a waste of time. His trumpet has a uncertain sound.
Who was Harry Morse?
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Old 11-09-2018, 06:55 PM
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Who was Harry Morse?

Who was George Washington? Did Scott Pitta chop down a cherry tree?
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Old 11-09-2018, 07:56 PM
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What?

Bro, if you are going to rock'em and sock'em don't fold under some sort of ecclesiastical niceties. You obviously don't believe the man is a Christian. You are here on an Apostolic forum trying to prove that the individual is a liar, a charlatan, a deluded man. That his "movement" is as bad as he is. Am I wrong on this assessment? My Lands, in your attempt to be nicer than Jesus, you make a case that the guy is a smoked barrel and then place a tag line "I'm not saying LS isn't a Christian, but"

Good God in Zion!
Yes, you're wrong in your assessment. I can be open to the possibility that one is a genuine believer, and at the same time be of the opinion that that same person may not be qualified for ministry.
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Old 11-09-2018, 09:01 PM
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How’s the job? Still in management?
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Old 11-09-2018, 09:14 PM
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How’s the job? Still in management?

Going good. Still at the same place (I changed jobs June 2017). It's great, good pay and benefits, weekends off.
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