Not Apostolic, but a valuable part of the board or any other he chooses to grace with his presence.
Understood, and I have no quarrel with you or Dave. What a strange alliance!
My only point is that just because I disagree, doesn't mean I need to leave the organization. If I ever get to the point where the disagreements hamper my ability to effectively minister I'll be gone. So far, I'm just annoyed by some fruitcakes.
Now this is the kind of stuff that gets things moving. I don't have time right now to weigh in, but I love a good, passionate exchange! This is more like it!!!
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"Those who go after the "Sauls" among us often slay the Davids among us." Gene Edwards
You know, I may be one of the ones being discussed here without anyone else knowing it.
I have always been a "3-stepper", completely ignorant of any merger, or that the UPCI was formed by PCI & PAJC. Never knew any of that until FCF, really only had one UPC pastor, and he never really got into the whole "organization" thing. He used UPC, ALJC, and independant men without distinction.
But now, I find myself wondering.....
Does a person enter covenant relationship at repentance, or not? Covenant as in contract, where both parties have obligations to fulfill?
Aren't we still preaching 2 commandments and a promise? Does death, for instance, negate a covenant entered into in good faith? Granted, once one repents, baptism and HG infilling should follow, and I teach this, and believe it with my whole heart. But I do not believe that person will go to hell should death interrupt the process.
On a different note, I am open to receive correction, but I must believe the person correcting has my best interests at heart. I visited a church once where the speaker (he was no preacher, IMO) took off on a rant regarding pentecostals. As soon as his attitude entered into his speaking, I turned him off. He may have recited nothing but truth after that, but I didn't hear it. Some of us could learn from this story.