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Old 03-06-2019, 03:41 PM
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Re: 1st century Jewish sects and Christianity

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Deep reading I cant exactly follow right now...long frustrating day and my mind aint the best.


Ok you're saying the angels that rebelled are bound....ok....so what are demons? What did Jesus and the disciples cast out of not fallen angels?


Are you saying that they are bound but still wield influence or are you saying that unclean spirits are a different entity entirely?
Some Jews of a more mystical bent believed angels fell, had sex with humans, and either those fallen angels or their hybrid offspring became demons. This gnostic superstition was creeping into the church, and Paul, Peter, and Jude taught against it, sometimes using the Jewish myths (book of Enoch, etc) promoted by the mystics to point out inconsistencies in their mystical doctrine.

The Bible doesn't speak about the origin of demons. It also doesn't teach angels fell and had sex with humans. It certainly doesn't teach that demons are fallen angels.


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What exactly is happening when a "demon" "manifests"?


Am I misreading some of the things you posted in this?


I have no desire to wrestle and spar with demons but what are people bound by?


Their own imaginations?


Is this whole thing some sort of disassociative projection onto an ethereal scapegoat our own making?


if not...how should we address this?


i feel as if we have authority it should go when we command it to go and we dont have to fish around for an identity or its name or any detective work...we should just recognize that there is an enemy agent at work and command its work to cease and command it to go...at least thats how i believe...


change my mind. lol
Demons, from the data in Scripture, appear to operate in and through the mind of their victim. Even the herd of swine went insane and drowned themselves when the demons got control of them. I think we should just cast them out and be done with them rather than getting sucked into overanalysing things.
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