Daniel's 70th week

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Agreed. But if we read the gospels Jesus said nothing about a coming associated with resurrection and entrance into eternity, we realize the only coming they asked about was associated with what He did say about coming, which is judgment alone.

And as I showed, if we read Mark's and Luke's accounts of their question, the SIGN of his coming was the same SIGN when the temple would be destroyed.. when "things things," that He just referred to before their question, would take place.

This does not agree with Pauls doctrine of Christs coming.

Jesus in Matthew 24.29-31

29Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Note Jesus said he will COME and GATHER TOGETHER his elect.

Now note what Paul taught about this same thing.

2 Thess. 2

1Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

Note it is the EXACT WORDING that Jesus used in Matt. 24.

Why?

Paul is simply teaching the 2nd coming as revealed in the Matt 24 discourse.

Is Paul writing about the saints entering eternity here?

ABSOLUTELY!

Simply go back a few verses to chapter 1:7 where he is introducing the topic.

7And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, 8In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:


So the context shows this IS written concerning concerning the gathering together of the saints INTO ETERNITY.

So Matt 24 is Pauls source for what he wrote to the Thessalonians.