why evangelics love Israel

[Godsdrummer]

Originally Posted by Amanah

The third temple of Ezekiel 40-48 is the New Jerusalem of Revelation 21 descending as a bride adorned for her husband, the Church!

And is it spiritual or literal?

I believe it is spiritual and with us today.

[Amanah]

Originally Posted by Godsdrummer

And is it spiritual or literal?

I believe it is spiritual and with us today.

the church is spiritual and literal.

[aegsm76]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Both articles do not refute what is outlined in Ezra and Nehemiah. Sorry, but Khazars or Chinese converts to Medival Talmudic Judaism is unbiblical. The Rabbis trust in your not knowing the subject, therefore you legitimize conversions which Ezra, Nehemiah, and Zerubabel would of vehemitly rejected.

EB - so your belief that the Jews of today are not the same as the Jews of the Bible is based in Ezra and Nehemiah?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

EB - so your belief that the Jews of today are not the same as the Jews of the Bible is based in Ezra and Nehemiah?

Ezra and Nehemiah give the short answer as to how they determined the members of tribes. Who was able to perform duties within the temple law system. Ezekiel goes further to give the prohibitions within the linage of the priest. Lineage meant everything to the ancient Israeli. What your article forgets to mention is HOW a Persian was able to convert to Isralism. How a female Moabitess was able to convert through the kinsman redeemer plan, and still bring forth children which would be considered her dead husband’s offspring.
Pharisees were able to have Gentile converts because they still had perfectly good lineages to place them in. Still, linage was VERY IMPORTANT as we see with Jesus’. Paul was actually able to point to his own pedigree. Which no Khazar could possibly do. Why? Because by the time of the Bar Kochba uprising the lineages were already sketchy. When we get to the Khazars all they are doing is joining the TEMPLESS religion of Babylonian Talmudic Judaism. A religion which was fabricated. Talmudism has no temple, just as when the original Judeans were in Babylon. After 70 AD, they just picked up were they left off, just no longer a people with any lineage connecting them to a land. Hence the one True religion would be the Apostolic Faith. Which a people would be not of race, but through grace. When Isaiah (speaking of Christ’s death) that who wold declare His generation. The prophet sees a young unmarried Judean male dying childless. No kinsman redeemer for Him since He was unmarried. So He wouldn’t have a physical generational linage. But when He fell asleep on the Cross ( gave up the ghost) out of His side came His wife (water and blood) Jesus name baptism the bride, the church, the true Israel of God. Just as the first Adam went to sleep, and his wife came from His side making the literal lineage. The same for Jesus which through Jesus name baptism we are born into His family, Jesus becomes our Father, we are His sons. We enter the only linage through circumcision of the heart, and the water and blood in His Name.

[Amanah]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Ezra and Nehemiah give the short answer as to how they determined the members of tribes. Who was able to perform duties within the temple law system. Ezekiel goes further to give the prohibitions within the linage of the priest. Lineage meant everything to the ancient Israeli. What your article forgets to mention is HOW a Persian was able to convert to Isralism. How a female Moabitess was able to convert through the kinsman redeemer plan, and still bring forth children which would be considered her dead husband’s offspring.
Pharisees were able to have Gentile converts because they still had perfectly good lineages to place them in. Still, linage was VERY IMPORTANT as we see with Jesus’. Paul was actually able to point to his own pedigree. Which no Khazar could possibly do. Why? Because by the time of the Bar Kochba uprising the lineages were already sketchy. When we get to the Khazars all they are doing is joining the TEMPLESS religion of Babylonian Talmudic Judaism. A religion which was fabricated. Talmudism has no temple, just as when the original Judeans were in Babylon. After 70 AD, they just picked up were they left off, just no longer a people with any lineage connecting them to a land. Hence the one True religion would be the Apostolic Faith. Which a people would be not of race, but through grace. When Isaiah (speaking of Christ’s death) that who wold declare His generation. The prophet sees a young unmarried Judean male dying childless. No kinsman redeemer for Him since He was unmarried. So He wouldn’t have a physical generational linage. But when He fell asleep on the Cross ( gave up the ghost) out of His side came His wife (water and blood) Jesus name baptism the bride, the church, the true Israel of God. Just as the first Adam went to sleep, and his wife came from His side making the literal lineage. The same for Jesus which through Jesus name baptism we are born into His family, Jesus becomes our Father, we are His sons. We enter the only linage through circumcision of the heart, and the water and blood in His Name.

well said.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Esaias

He did not, by the way, say "Israel is beloved for the Father's sake." Man, talk about mangling the Word of God! And then you interpret that as "the Jews are beloved for God's sake."

He said, "...as touching the election they are beloved for the fathers' sakes." He was speaking about Jacob, not the Jews (certainly not the people calling themselves Jews today) - v 26.

As far as the ELECTION they are beloved for the sake of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Now notice, according to verse 7, "the election hath obtained it, and THE REST WERE BLINDED." Which clearly means the blinded part of Israel (not "the Jews") were OUTSIDE the part called "the election", who are "beloved for the fathers' sakes".

And none of this applies, whatsoever, to the modern day antichrists over in Palestine.

Exactly

[jediwill83]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Ezra and Nehemiah give the short answer as to how they determined the members of tribes. Who was able to perform duties within the temple law system. Ezekiel goes further to give the prohibitions within the linage of the priest. Lineage meant everything to the ancient Israeli. What your article forgets to mention is HOW a Persian was able to convert to Isralism. How a female Moabitess was able to convert through the kinsman redeemer plan, and still bring forth children which would be considered her dead husband’s offspring.
Pharisees were able to have Gentile converts because they still had perfectly good lineages to place them in. Still, linage was VERY IMPORTANT as we see with Jesus’. Paul was actually able to point to his own pedigree. Which no Khazar could possibly do. Why? Because by the time of the Bar Kochba uprising the lineages were already sketchy. When we get to the Khazars all they are doing is joining the TEMPLESS religion of Babylonian Talmudic Judaism. A religion which was fabricated. Talmudism has no temple, just as when the original Judeans were in Babylon. After 70 AD, they just picked up were they left off, just no longer a people with any lineage connecting them to a land. Hence the one True religion would be the Apostolic Faith. Which a people would be not of race, but through grace. When Isaiah (speaking of Christ’s death) that who wold declare His generation. The prophet sees a young unmarried Judean male dying childless. No kinsman redeemer for Him since He was unmarried. So He wouldn’t have a physical generational linage. But when He fell asleep on the Cross ( gave up the ghost) out of His side came His wife (water and blood) Jesus name baptism the bride, the church, the true Israel of God. Just as the first Adam went to sleep, and his wife came from His side making the literal lineage. The same for Jesus which through Jesus name baptism we are born into His family, Jesus becomes our Father, we are His sons. We enter the only linage through circumcision of the heart, and the water and blood in His Name.

Dude im holding back a HolyGhost freakout right now...I just saw that in a way I have never seen it before.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Amanah

The third temple of Ezekiel 40-48 is the New Jerusalem of Revelation 21 descending as a bride adorned for her husband, the Church!

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Amanah

*sorry for typo in title, should be:

Why evangelical Christians Love Israel

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recap:
basically we need to support Israel so Christ can return, we can get out of here, and Jews can go thru tribulation, with 1/3 being saved.


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At 1:37 Brother Irvin Baxter Jr says Ethiopia will attack Israel? Good Job Brother Baxter, good job.

[Evang.Benincasa]

At 7:20-25 Brother Baxter says Jesus isn't KING of kings yet???????

Good GOD in Zion!!!!!