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Originally Posted by n david
The 60s and 70s are LONG past. Facial hair is NOT synonymous with hippies and rebellion anymore. It's ridiculous that people still try to use that as a reason to ban facial hair on white men.
If you want to talk "culture" and give exceptions due to "culture," which is what the UPC has done with its dress code -- then understand that the "culture" today has removed the old stigma of the beard. Executives, Politicians and Ministers now grow facial hair. It is current "culture" for men of all colors and nationalities to grow facial hair.
Actually, this "culture" stuff has no basis in scripture. Paul wrote that we're not Jew or Greek, bond or free, but one body. Just as with the Godhead and New Birth salvation, there should be no variance in the body when it comes to actual Bible holiness. The reason there is points how less it is about Biblical doctrine and more it is about personal preferences.
Also, you forgot to mention that Jesus had a beard. 
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I understand what you're saying.
But I think Apostolic1ness was pointing out a pastor's challenge with such a tradition, seeing that there are still many older saints in the congregation with deep convictions about the issue... because they lived it. To just embrace beards full hog in some churches could seriously cause a crisis of faith for some who were always taught that it was a "sin" and it was "rebellion". So, the pastor has to be sensitive to that reality.
Now, is that reality the fault of the congregation? No. Of course it is how it was preached back in the day. I think we face a lot of unnecessary hurdles to unity, confidence, bible focus, and organizational politics because of the way things were preached.