What supersedes the calling(s) of God?

Originally Posted by Malvaro

Does everyone remember when David was anointed king of Israel, all while Saul maintained control of the kingship for years until he eventually died in battle? David had been anointed, or "called" to that role, yet he was delayed until God changed the circumstances.... During the entire duration, David honored Saul, the very man that was stopping him from claiming the kingship and fulfilling his "calling"....

What say ye? Does this example apply to this question?

I think it applies somewhat... it is just compounded by the fact that instead of just a couple of annointed people, there are thousands... too many chiefs...

Originally Posted by Malvaro

Does everyone remember when David was anointed king of Israel, all while Saul maintained control of the kingship for years until he eventually died in battle? David had been anointed, or "called" to that role, yet he was delayed until God changed the circumstances.... During the entire duration, David honored Saul, the very man that was stopping him from claiming the kingship and fulfilling his "calling"....

What say ye? Does this example apply to this question?

No, because if God had wanted to set David on the throne immediately he would have done so.

[Newman]

Originally Posted by Malvaro

What if the first church has shown no significant growth? Are you still suggesting that the city only needs one Pentecostal church?

I am only suggesting that a city is best served by one UPC church and not limiting other Apostolic Churches at all. I don't believe a UPC label needs to be on an Apostolic Church to reach the lost.

[Malvaro]

Originally Posted by Newman

I am only suggesting that a city is best served by one UPC church and not limiting other Apostolic Churches at all. I don't believe a UPC label needs to be on an Apostolic Church to reach the lost.

How can you suggest that a church, reaching less than a fraction of 1% of it's city population should have the "UPC" monopoly on that city.... maybe if they are reaching more than 1% of it's city or a mega-church of over 1,000....

I am shocked that one would be bold enough to publically state this....

Originally Posted by Newman

I am only suggesting that a city is best served by one UPC church and not limiting other Apostolic Churches at all. I don't believe a UPC label needs to be on an Apostolic Church to reach the lost.

Sis Newman
I strongly disagree with you on this. You might as well be saying there should only be one grocery store, one gas station, and one McDonald's in each city with a population of 70,000. The fact is, I can understand one church setting itself up in the center of the city, and starting daughter works all around the perimeters. But to say that there should just be one is just not business-wise, spiritual-wise, or else-wise.

Originally Posted by Malvaro

How can you suggest that a church, reaching less than a fraction of 1% of it's city population should have the "UPC" monopoly on that city.... maybe if they are reaching more than 1% of it's city or a mega-church of over 1,000....

I am shocked that one would be bold enough to publically state this....

I think that once a church grows to about 500 members it should split off and start another church. Considering that most church growth in America today is occurring because people are church hopping, I think the real issue that needs to be addressed is why churches (and I'm not just talking about UPC or Apostolic churches) aren't making very many new disciples for Jesus.

[Newman]

Wait!!! Why does there have to be 2 Walmarts in the same city of 70,000? Why not a Target, Kmart, or other store?

I am not suggesting that retail stores or Apostolic Churches be limited. I am only suggesting that particular labels should be spread out instead of creating potential conflicts in relatively small areas given the great need in other areas.

[Felicity]

I think the idea that there can't be 2 UPC churches in a city of 70,000 or even 50,000 or less is preposterous.

[Malvaro]

Originally Posted by Newman

Wait!!! Why does there have to be 2 Walmarts in the same city of 70,000? Why not a Target, Kmart, or other store?

I am not suggesting that retail stores or Apostolic Churches be limited. I am only suggesting that particular labels should be spread out instead of creating potential conflicts in relatively small areas given the great need in other areas.

this entire thread with written with the understanding that God placed a burden on the 2nd man for that same city.... and that the calling on the 2nd man is just as legit.... your observations are leading us off-topic....

from the perspective of coverage, i do agree that the UPC still has dead-zones without truth-preaching churches.... and still needs many new people in new harvest fields....

Originally Posted by Malvaro

this entire thread with written with the understanding that God placed a burden on the 2nd man for that same city.... and that the calling on the 2nd man is just as legit.... your observations are leading us off-topic....

from the perspective of coverage, i do agree that the UPC still has dead-zones without truth-preaching churches.... and still needs many new people in new harvest fields....

People seem to be forgetting that part.