Matt Maddix

[diakonos]

Originally Posted by navygoat1998

I am not even a fan of the UPC, but is not fair to cast blame their way. Many a preacher, from many an organization have walked away from their first love for the love of manna.

Mammon.

[aegsm76]

Originally Posted by Apostolic1ness

Im not blaming the UPC totally, its his life right.
Im just saying the leadership of the UPC at the time when he was so popular promoted him beyond his ability to handle it.

I have to disagree.
Primarily because he handled it well, at the time.
But, he started a long slide several years back.
Unfortunately, I had a front row seat...

[TakingDominion]

Originally Posted by n david

Man is broken over the lost of his best friend. He's also very angry over what happened with JA and BOTT.

Who was his best friend? And what happened at BOTT?

[n david]

Originally Posted by TakingDominion

Who was his best friend? And what happened at BOTT?

Someone who died of cancer.

There's a whole thread on AFF about it somewhere. JA said some things during a message which upset a lot of ministers. He has not preached at BOTT since, and even was removed from preaching at some camp meetings or conferences.

I don't know all he allegedly said. I did see a video clip of one remark about another minister which wasn't nice. Allegedly he made a comment or two about Obama as well.

Ironically, I watched an old BOTT message by both LS and JA recently and when introducing both, AM stated that both would preach at BOTT every year. LS hasn't preached there since the 90s, not sure why he hasn't been back. Would be great to have both preach at BOTT next year though.

[n david]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

nd - some of that may have been the tipping point.
However, it started long ago.

In the video I watched, it's certainly the catalyst for the new cursing, drinking, cigar-smoking MM. He mentioned several times the death of his friend and death of another UPC minister from years ago and how he missed them.

I agree his downward slide started long ago though.

[Sherri]

I just find the whole thing terribly sad. Evidently at one time, he had a lot of potential.

[TakingDominion]

Originally Posted by n david

In the video I watched, it's certainly the catalyst for the new cursing, drinking, cigar-smoking MM. He mentioned several times the death of his friend and death of another UPC minister from years ago and how he missed them.

I agree his downward slide started long ago though.

It started when money became more important than the kingdom

[TakingDominion]

Originally Posted by n david

Someone who died of cancer.

There's a whole thread on AFF about it somewhere. JA said some things during a message which upset a lot of ministers. He has not preached at BOTT since, and even was removed from preaching at some camp meetings or conferences.

I don't know all he allegedly said. I did see a video clip of one remark about another minister which wasn't nice. Allegedly he made a comment or two about Obama as well.

Ironically, I watched an old BOTT message by both LS and JA recently and when introducing both, AM stated that both would preach at BOTT every year. LS hasn't preached there since the 90s, not sure why he hasn't been back. Would be great to have both preach at BOTT next year though.

I'll never forget the message he preached at BOTT "Get Addicted"

[TakingDominion]

Originally Posted by n david

Someone who died of cancer.

There's a whole thread on AFF about it somewhere. JA said some things during a message which upset a lot of ministers. He has not preached at BOTT since, and even was removed from preaching at some camp meetings or conferences.

I don't know all he allegedly said. I did see a video clip of one remark about another minister which wasn't nice. Allegedly he made a comment or two about Obama as well.

Ironically, I watched an old BOTT message by both LS and JA recently and when introducing both, AM stated that both would preach at BOTT every year. LS hasn't preached there since the 90s, not sure why he hasn't been back. Would be great to have both preach at BOTT next year though.

I'll never forget the message he preached at BOTT "Get Addicted"

[Originalist]

So what has he been saying lately?