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Originally Posted by BCsenior
Let's add 2 more ...
John 14:16-17
"And I (Jesus) will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever — the Spirit of truth"
John 16:13-16
"However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; a little while, and you will not see Me; and again a
little while, and you will see Me, because I go to the Father."
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Sorry BC but look at what you are doing. You are assuming 3 God persons are in the verses. Now if one admits to believing in 3 Gods I could see why they believe what they do.
Coming from the view of One God I see it more like this. Jesus speaks of praying to the Father. Yes. We get it. But was he speaking as God, or a God person?
If so then we can eliminate a truth that is in the Old and New Testament, namely that there is ONE GOD. ALSO does it not seem strange that if Jesus here is praying to the Father AS ANOTHER GOD, OR GOD PERSON, that he would need to pray to anyone AT ALL in order to accomplish his will?
The truth here seems to be that THE MAN Jesus was praying to God. That way the Oneness of God is maintained. Jesus was God MANifested in the flesh. A real man in the incarnation. It was outside the incarnation he was God.
It still works that way.
1 Tim. 2:5
For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Jesus Christ.
There is one God and one man.
Jesus is BOTH God and man SIMULTANEOUSLY amen?