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Old 11-30-2019, 06:13 PM
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Re: Homestead Heritage in waco tx

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These are strong words, and may well represent Armapeet's exprience.

The Homestead Heritage group is sort of syncretistic, with a Christian heritage now buffeted by the yahweh-worship, yahshua, and the loss of pure Bible moorings.

Since I knew my friends, the brothers and sisters, when we were almost fully Christian, in the 1970s to the early 1980s, I walked around the Fairs of 2009 and 2013, and visits in 2016 and 2017, with fun and freedom, most of the time. (Similarly in my earlier days of visits in the 1990s, although often those were involved with other doctrinal issues, even the 7th-day sabbath .)

Except for the time in 2009, when I ran out of the worship tent while they mangled Days of Elijah to "no god but yahweh". That was intense.

Well, I did get booted out in 2017, because I had become the voice of truth about their changes. After many years of cordial sharing, where they had directly asked me to explain my beliefs on Jehovah and the Authorized Version.

In 2017 poor Gary threatened the cops (I was just shopping in the food store after walking around a bit) while Tony said "repent, repent". It was sort of strange, since they really need to repent of yahweh-worship.

They do monitor forums like this one, although only certain people would have that authority and allowance. So any writing here is for their benefit as well as the apostolic community.
Homestead heritage uses the word Yahshua?
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Old 11-30-2019, 06:20 PM
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I do down here in Broward and Dade county.
Marshall (Moshe the K) I think is based done there, one of the national ganzamachers. He ‘prophesied’ that the Hebrew NT would be found in Judea or Samaria ‘Real Soon Now’.

Around 20 years back I attended one of the sacred name conferences, in Scranton. I only made a cameo appearance, Marshall was claiming healings in the faux name. I felt the queasy pit that this claim was not from the Holy Spririt. Similar to what Armapeet shared.

Michael Rood used to claim similar, fortunately he finally dumped the yahweh clump. His teachings remain uneven, but at least he shook the yahweh devil. He was helped by the contact with Nehemia Gordon.

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Old 11-30-2019, 06:51 PM
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Marshall (Moshe the K) I think is based done there, one of the national ganzamachers. He ‘prophesied’ that the Hebrew NT would be found in Judea or Samaria ‘Real Soon Now’.

Around 20 years back I attended one of the sacred name conferences, in Scranton. I only made a cameo appearance, Marshall was claiming healings in the faux name. I felt the queasy pit that this claim was not from the Holy Spririt. Similar to what Armapeet shared.

Michael Rood used to claim similar, fortunately he finally dumped the yahweh clump. His teachings remain uneven, but at least he shook the yahweh devil. He was helped by the contact with Nehemia Gordon.
I know the Nehemia Gordon insanity all too well, plus the Michael Rood baloney. I don't know the Marshall individual you brought up. But I have heard the whole Hebrew New Testament is supposed to be found soon.
We have quiet a few Yahwehists and Yashuites down here. I really enjoy having discussions with them when we got a good crowd. I had one get pretty mad at me. I could of fried an egg on his head, but for the life of me I couldn't understand why he got so livid.
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Old 11-30-2019, 08:07 PM
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Homestead Heritage - ensnared in "Yahweh-worship"

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Homestead heritage uses the word Yahshua?
Yep. It is very sad. Even in water baptism, either instead of or in a confusion combination with Jesus. (And I have received both reports, super-reliably, possible representing different time periods.)

This was never a part in my time of involvement (we had no memberships) in the 70s and 80s. There was a tiny bit of Yeshua in Messianic songs like those of Lamb, or "Mayim, mayim.." Sweet music, and Yeshua is in fact the right Hebrew name. Yahshua is simply gibberish, connected to the dark-side yahweh.

And when I visited and corresponded from the late 90s (or perhaps post 2000) to c. 2015, they actually kept this new entrance of Yahshua totally hidden. Its funny, because in the 1990s I dabbled in the "Sacred Name" movement, however I never came against the name of Jesus. (Joel Stein even helped at one point, saying there was power in the name of Jesus in a personal conference.)

And I was informed by various friends who had left the fellership about the meeting where Yahshua was given a type of revelation anointing, accepted tentatively by Regina (and Blair) ... which all led to the baptism disaster, and a general sense that the name of Jesus was second-fiddle.

Beyond that, their baptism doctrine on their online SOF (statement of faith) is an unmitigated disaster. Nothing about remission of sins, instead you read about a "pledge of the old nature", a really creative and abominable heresy, which itself is partially built on a corruption version translation error. Error begets error.

(One pastor friend surprisingly ran into the zeus canard when visiting at the Fair, but it was all a little muddled, so it may have simply been a little aberration, or talking about other groups ... not a position ever officially stated or considered. Or perhaps an unofficial fringe idea. I actually had a major correspondence to correct Twelve Tribes away from that error.)

And now you can find Yahshua in some of the Homestead Heritage literature. Generally this was internal literature, however one major writing seems to be now available in their internet bookstore, the book that blares out "Oy-veh" on the cover. (It can be an abomination to even mention, they are calling that dark-side entity God, so I have changed the name to something similar, Yiddish for a pain.)

In a spiritual sense .. this was a major part of their ride down the tubes. Blair and Regina Adams had always respected the Authorized Version, but Blair let himself get hoodwinked. Yes, I made efforts to help, even attempting to go around the more obstinate and hardened priests of yahweh. And I only went directly public (discussing the weaknesses of Homestead Heritage on these fundamentals) when they showed themselves essentially reprobate on these issues. They never came against my beliefs directly, but came up with the quirky idea that I was "holding a doctrine in a heretical way". Quite a doozy .

Yet, it had always been my hope that they would recover, quietly.

We had corresponded on and off for about 10 years, starting from c. 2005 when they had asked me to explain why I held the Authorized Version and Jehovah beliefs. (And I had defended them in the 'Factnet Wars' on the net forum, which they appreciated.) Thus the Holy Spirit gave me the special calling to share the truth with them, in love, which still remains today.

It is possible that around 2005 they were sincerely reexamining their positions (not convictions, since they had lost those about the true supremacy of the names of Jesus and Jehovah, and also on the pure Bible their position was a muddled mess.) And I cannot say if their request for me to share was part of an honest reevaluation, or more a feint to assert their authority and for my beliefs to be challenged and weakened. In fact, the result was a time of strengthening on my end. Remember, for an honest reevaluation they would really have to stop praying in the name of yahweh. And I do not think this ever occurred. However, I do know a case where they were praying with a Pastor friend and they asked to stop the Jesus prayer, and move to praying to yahweh. Oops. Sounds a bit like what Armapeet shared above. (The gentleman, to his eternal credit, said no.)

Although there is always hope that they could have times of renewal and refreshing, especially if someone speaks directly, heart to heart, to Blair and Regina.

Really, what difference does it make if I was a vessel to share with them on these points? The truths are so simple and clear. And I simply would like to see my dozens of close friends, and hundreds or thousands more involved today, having the pure Bible and calling on the true names. And then, maybe, they really will have a lot of pure truth to offer to the Christians around the world - communities, apostolic, anabaptist, and others. Right now, they are a vacuum into the darkness of yahwehism, actually praying to that dark entity. Folks connecting with them may take one step forward, and two or more backwards!

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Lord Jesus, touch their hearts at Homestead Heritage, may they have times of renewing and refreshing! Lord Jesus, help them to push away childish and devilish nonsense. And bring them back to the pure word of God, the Authorized Version, the plumb-line of faith, way over and above the fellership writings and rhema.

In Jesus majestic and glorious name!

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Old 11-30-2019, 09:16 PM
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Nehemia Gordon - some solid OT Hebrew Bible teach

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I know the Nehemia Gordon insanity all too well, plus the Michael Rood baloney.
Nehemia is very good on Old Testament judaism, including the Hebrew Bible true pronunciation of the name Yehovah/Jehovah. And also he has spoken well on the yahwehistic paganism (Jupiter). Taken a lot of flak, as well. And I was at his first public teaching on this near Talpiot, Jerusalem in 2002. With lots of growth and follow-up. This was at Michael Rood's house . Rood gave up the yahweh nonsense, pagan blunder, more than a decade later.

Also Nehemia can be good on OT issues like rejecting Talmudic-Rabbinic nonsense.

Yes, you can ignore his New Testament stuff, and it can be called baloney. Like the Hebrew Matthew blah-blah. And some other late medieval mss. in Hebrew, I think parts of Luke and John.

Most of the Michael Rood stuff can be ignored. However he is good on a couple of issues, the Ron Wyatt archaeology should be respected and studied earnestly.

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I don't know the Marshall individual you brought up. But I have heard the whole Hebrew New Testament is supposed to be found soon.
Marshall (Moshe) Yoseph Koniuchowsky. There might be a connection to the Beth Moshe Congretation in the North Miami area. A group called Your Arms to Israel and some Restoration edition of the "scriptures". However, Marshall seems to have moved to the Jacksonville area. This was the fellow I saw speaking in Scranton.

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Nehemia is very good on Old Testament judaism, including the Hebrew Bible true pronunciation of the name Yehovah/Jehovah. And also he has spoken well on the yahwehistic paganism (Jupiter). Taken a lot of flak, as well. And I was at his first public teaching on this near Talpiot, Jerusalem in 2002. With lots of growth and follow-up. This was at Michael Rood's house . Rood gave up the yahweh nonsense, pagan blunder, more than a decade later.

Also Nehemia can be good on OT issues like rejecting Talmudic-Rabbinic nonsense.

Yes, you can ignore his New Testament stuff, and it can be called baloney. Like the Hebrew Matthew blah-blah. And some other late medieval mss. in Hebrew, I think parts of Luke and John.

Most of the Michael Rood stuff can be ignored. However he is good on a couple of issues, the Ron Wyatt archaeology should be respected and studied earnestly.

Marshall (Moshe) Yoseph Koniuchowsky. There might be a connection to the Beth Moshe Congretation in the North Miami area. A group called Your Arms to Israel and some Restoration edition of the "scriptures". However, Marshall seems to have moved to the Jacksonville area. This was the fellow I saw speaking in Scranton.

Koniuchowsky!!! That joker created his own translation! I know that group, they are in North Dade. They believe that the book of Revelation, and the Gospel was originally written in Hebrew. They use their own Bible translation. They have an English translation and a Sanih translation. One of the brothers in our church works with one of these people. I asked to speak to him but the guy dodged meet up.
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Yep. It is very sad. Even in water baptism, either instead of or in a confusion combination with Jesus. (And I have received both reports, super-reliably, possible representing different time periods.)
Well, those guys are toast.
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Homestead Heritage - trapped in gibberish Yahshua

Here is another one. I wrote to one of the elders about Yahshua and Yahweh. It was a cordial letter, and here are a couple of extracts:

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March 9 and March 27, 2019

"yahweh" is really nothing more than the Jupiter of Acts 14 and 19, and the enemy of Hebraic and Christian faith through the ages ... there are forces at work that are preventing even an honest and sincere inquiry into how Homestead Heritage got mired in yahweh and yahshua, even in water baptism, with the emphasis really increasing around the 1990s. (My times of deep full involvement were late 1976 to c 1985.)

... And even when you increased the 'Yahweh-worship' and brought in 'Yahshua' around 1990, even into the water baptism, all in an increasing elbowing aside and usurpation from the Lord Jesus Christ. (Granted: Jesus never fully denied, just mixing oil and water, pure and impure.")
And he responded with a very weird accusation:

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Abraham Adams:

"I must say that it greatly troubled me to see the ease with which you associate the Name of Jesus—Yahshua, with darkness and the devil."
This shows you how lost they are on the Yahshua-Yahweh name problems. And how highly they have placed the gibberish non-Hebrew "Yahshua".

And I did offer to Abraham, more than once, the opportunity to retract this weird and false accusation. However it still stands as a stain upon Abraham and upon Homestead Heritage.

To falsely accuse a Christian brother of attacking the name of Jesus is about as bad as it gets. Especially when my purpose was to assert the full authority of the name of Jesus!

Thank you, Jesus! Halleluyah.

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Afaik, today they never really defend these blunders in any iron sharpeneth dialog. Their approach is mostly to point to the authority in the eldership (which members have signed up for, literally). They also have the diversion and distraction of trying to shoot the messenger. It is all very sad, and scholastically and spiritually dishonest.

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I’m about 1.5 hrs South from Waco, TX and planning on visiting Heritage Homestead. Looking forward to all the crafts and activities after Thanksgiving. Ive read what a lot of you think about the Homestead, my best advice is “eat the meat, throw away the bones.”
So?

How was Heritage Homestead?

Give the report.
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I’m about 1.5 hrs South from Waco, TX and planning on visiting Heritage Homestead. Looking forward to all the crafts and activities after Thanksgiving. Ive read what a lot of you think about the Homestead, my best advice is “eat the meat, throw away the bones.”
Eat the meat throw away the bones?

Is that how you roll?
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