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Originally Posted by aegsm76
I do agree with you "somewhat" on most of what you write.
Nations are a man-made construct that will fail.
I will say that this nation did start off with a recognition of God.
Now, was the civil rights movement a "rebellion"?
Lol.
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Nations are NOT a "man-made construct". Nations are God-made:
And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;
Acts:17:26
You are confusing "states" with nations. By "state" I mean a juridical society, ie a government claiming jurisdiction over a landmass, etc.
The Biblical meaning of "nation" is a people having a common ancestor and sharing a common culture. In other words, 1 or more tribes related to one another by ancestry. The Greek term is "ethnoi" from which we get the word ethnic. A nation then, Scripturally, is an ethnic grouping.
Biblically, the way God designed it, a nation is a related group of people belonging to the same ethnic grouping. Nowadays, people believe in what can be called "the proposition nation". A proposition nation is an attempt to create a kingdom or state whose unifying center is an idea (proposition) or set of ideas, as opposed to the Biblical foundation of ancestry and ethnic affinity. Babel, the Babylonian empire, Rome, etc were all "proposition nations". In fact, all empires are such, and must be, because they attempt to unify different ethnicities around the central idea, displacing family and tribal loyalty with loyalty to the state and it's ideas.
Interestingly even though the Kingdom of God is universal (global, international) in scope, it still retains national identitues as cohesive and distinct units, unlike statism and empire:
Who shall not fear thee, O Lord, and glorify thy name? for thou only art holy: for all nations shall come and worship before thee; for thy judgments are made manifest.
Revelation:15:4
And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.
Revelation:21:24
In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.
Revelation:22:2
For the kingdom is the LORD's: and he is the governor among the nations.
Psalm:22:28
O let the nations be glad and sing for joy: for thou shalt judge the people righteously, and govern the nations upon earth. Selah.
Psalm:67:4
Yea, all kings shall fall down before him: all nations shall serve him.
Psalm:72:11
Arise, O God, judge the earth: for thou shalt inherit all nations.
Psalm:82:8
And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.
Isaiah:2:2
So shall he sprinkle many nations; the kings shall shut their mouths at him: for that which had not been told them shall they see; and that which they had not heard shall they consider.
Isaiah:52:15
And many nations shall come, and say, Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, and to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for the law shall go forth of Zion, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.
Micah:4:2
And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.
Daniel:7:14
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