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Old 01-06-2020, 10:40 PM
Steven Avery Steven Avery is offline
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Re: Trinitarians Don't Own Matthew 28:19

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The earliest known formula was recorded in the Didache 60-80 AD and second additions in 100-150 AD. ...the first explicit reference to baptism by pouring ...pour water on the head three times in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Before the baptism, moreover, the one who baptizes and the one being baptized must fast, and any others who can. And you must tell the one being baptized to fast for one or two days beforehand.
And I am surprised that layman316 actually claims the ultra-dubious 1st century claim as his own belief.

He is quite welcome to explain why he considers such a non-scriptural passage to be 1st century.

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And I wrote this a year ago on a discussion on Facebook group (Patristics for Protestants).
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The allowance for pouring water on the head three times would seem to indicate some time and doctrinal distance from the apostolic era, with the scriptures showing the search for water for the immersion baptism of the scriptures.

Acts 8:36-38 (AV)
And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water:
and the eunuch said, See, here is water;
what doth hinder me to be baptized?
And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest.
And he answered and said,
I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
And he commanded the chariot to stand still:
and they went down both into the water,
both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.


This type of doctrinal shifting, allowing a pouring on the head, would likely take a century or more. ie. 150 AD rather than 1st century.

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