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Old 01-09-2020, 08:38 PM
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Re: Why Sunday

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The same went for Friday, Saturday, Monday, and Woden's Day. Saturday was big with the Romans because the Imperial Temple was the temple of the Titan Saturn. So, I believe the pagan route for an argument just brings pagan accusations towards other days. Including Saturday.
Well, the history is pretty much clear that as Christendom became paganised the Day of the Sun became prominent. There is no historical connection between Saturn worship and the 7th day Sabbath, but there IS verifiable historical connection between Sunday keeping and sun worship.

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The church made collections on the first day of the week.
Paul told the Corinthians "every man set aside by himself the first of the week" for a one time collection of alms for the poor brethren in Judea. I don't see that it follows that Christians regularly had church on Sunday, though.

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Jesus remains in the tomb on Saturday, and rises on Sunday. In Genesis all six days have beginning and endings except the sabbath due to it being eternal. JMO. But traditions were held by both groups, Rabbinicals and by Christians. The Bible can only be the source in which we find the exact day when they would gather to worship.
Agreed. Interestingly, the 4th commandment says nothing about gathering or doing any particular things other than ceasing from your own labours and resting. However, a bit after that, God outlined several "appointments" (moedim), most of which were a "feast" or festival (chag) in Lev 23. The first appointment mentioned is the weekly Sabbath. It is also called a "holy convocation" or "sacred assembly".

Now, the church has always assembled together on a regular basis. But where did that idea originate? Jesus and the apostles didn't invent the church meeting out of whole cloth. There is precedent for it: the ekklesia is by definition an assembly, or group of people who meet together; the early church was either Judean (used to assembling on Sabbath in either synagogues or any designated "place where prayer was wont to be made") or God-fearing gentile (used to meeting with Judeans on the Sabbath at synagogues for prayer and instruction in the Word); all people have universally recognised the usefulness if not the apparent necessity of regular scheduled meetings, not just for religious purposes but as a basic function of being social creatures; and the pattern of temple service (the church itself is the temple which implies latreia or liturgy or divine service of offerings and worship of some kind), and so forth.

That Christians are to assemble is pretty evident. When, then? The Sabbath seems particularly and specially designed as a suitable time for assembling together. If you asked a first century Christian "How often should we meet together and when?" I think it would be practically self-evident that the Sabbath would immediately suggest itself as the most obvious candidate.

Technically, any day would do. However, if Sunday is THE standard day a local assembly gathers, it raises the question, "Why?" Suppose we simply called Oneness by the term "trinity", as in three aspects or modes or manifestations or titles or whatever. Would that not be suspect? Why associate with and try to appropriate that which is historically settled as "orthodox trinitarianism"? I see it the same way with Sunday keeping:. Is it any different than claiming Christmas trees are emblems of the cross? Why bother with the baggage? And trying to do both as church days seems to me a species of "I baptise you in the name of the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit, in Jesus' name."

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Another thing is the everyday get together house to house cookout, but then a communal living conditions would come in play. Which I highly doubt that was the case, or expected to be the case for all Christians throughout the ages.
I don't think the breaking bread daily house to house was "everybody having church every day" but is simply saying every day there were believers hanging out together and sharing meals, to emphasise the community they shared. The Judeans also had a history of communal groups (Qumran, etc) so that seems more of a local cultural practice in Jerusalem (not that a principle of community shouldn't be derived from their example, though).

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