Depression

[n david]

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

Not sure which verse your trying to use.

The verse to which I was referring was under that sentence. It was Mark 6:5, 6 "And he could there do no mighty work, save that he laid his hands upon a few sick folk, and healed them. And he marvelled because of their unbelief."

To me that shows that in spite of the unbelief, Jesus was still able to heal. Lack of faith didn't stop God from healing.

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

Mark 9:23-24 Jesus said unto him, If thou canst believe, all things are possible to him that believeth. [24] And straightway the father of the child cried out, and said with tears, Lord, I believe; help thou mine unbelief.

Jesus is telling this man if you believe, all things are possible. The fact that this man confessed and asked God to Help his unbelief shows I believe his faith. I personally believe that faith to come and to get prayed for is faith enough to heal you. Does it happen every time? No, it doesn’t, which tells me 3 things, I or the individual didnt have the faith for this, God is going to use this for his glory, its a spirit and needs to be cast out, or rebuked.

Faith isn't magical or something which requires much effort. If a person comes before the church requesting prayer, that shows enough faith for them to be healed. If a minister is taking his calling seriously, praying with the individual shows enough faith for them to be healed.

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

You are correct I misspoke, I do need faith to pray for the sick, but I believe the brunt of the faith needs to come from them. My faith or your faith cannot override their doubt. When we go and pray for the elderly, young people, sick and dying we have to have the faith in the midst of some pretty heart breaking situations, yet they must believe that God can heal.

See above -- faith doesn't require much effort.

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

Anyway, I believe its our responsibility to ask God to heal us, and if there is not a healing there is a reason.

I agree we are responsible to ask for healing.

One issue I struggle with is healing -- specifically why it doesn't always happen. I believe like Billy Cole -- you should be surprised if healing doesn't happen instead of that it happens. I've posted this before, I agree with a minister who lamented over the medicine cabinet of saints being no different than that of the unsaved.

Now I understand that you can't abuse your body and eat a bunch of junk and expect God to keep you from diabetes or heart disease. But if I let myself dwell on it, I get frustrated that we don't see more (to use an Arnold message title) "explainable yet undeniable" healing or miracles here in the US. I hear all about it in foreign countries, but I want to see it happen here.

I want my kids to see it happen today, not just read about how it happened in the Bible or how it happens overseas.