Why did we lock down to begin with?

jfrog · #1 05-01-2020, 08:59 PM

So back when the U.S. first locked down the justification was to flatten the curve of coronavirus spread so that our hospitals did not get overwhelmed. Well, our hospitals aren't overwhelmed... So why do so many states have such an issue with easing up restrictions?

jfrog · #2 05-01-2020, 09:05 PM

I have also noticed another oddity. When the prospect of herd immunity arises, one common refrain against it is that we don't even know if their will be immunity to the coronavirus.

However, if immunity to it doesn't work then why in the very next breath is a vaccine being touted as the only solution. It seems that if herd immunity can't work then a vaccine can't either.

james34 · #3 05-01-2020, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jfrog

I have also noticed another oddity. When the prospect of herd immunity arises, one common refrain against it is that we don't even know if their will be immunity to the coronavirus.

However, if immunity to it doesn't work then why in the very next breath is a vaccine being touted as the only solution. It seems that if herd immunity can't work then a vaccine can't either.

You are asking too many questions, please refrain from spreading discord among the citizens. Failure to comply will result in a loss of points to your social credit score and a possible suspension of privileges.

As a good global citizen ,we must all do our part. We are in this together.

hometown guy · #4 05-01-2020, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jfrog

I have also noticed another oddity. When the prospect of herd immunity arises, one common refrain against it is that we don't even know if their will be immunity to the coronavirus.

However, if immunity to it doesn't work then why in the very next breath is a vaccine being touted as the only solution. It seems that if herd immunity can't work then a vaccine can't either.

Well if we can’t get immunity to it then even more the reason to open back up because it will still be here tomorrow....

hometown guy · #5 05-01-2020, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jfrog

So back when the U.S. first locked down the justification was to flatten the curve of coronavirus spread so that our hospitals did not get overwhelmed. Well, our hospitals aren't overwhelmed... So why do so many states have such an issue with easing up restrictions?

Yup that was the original reason for the stay at home order. Somehow it changed to saving lives by stopping the virus and people are dumb enough to think the order can actually do that.

Scott Pitta · #6 05-02-2020, 08:19 AM

In Wisconsin, we are waiting for the curve to flatten out before resuming normal social interaction. As of today, our curve is still on the initial upward bend.

Social isolation reduces the spread of the pandemic.

Steven Avery · #7 05-02-2020, 08:26 AM

Thank you for common sense, with a little humour, to the first three posters.

jfrog · #8 05-03-2020, 02:31 AM

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In Wisconsin, we are waiting for the curve to flatten out before resuming normal social interaction. As of today, our curve is still on the initial upward bend.

Social isolation reduces the spread of the pandemic.

You don't need a lockdown to still social distance.

Keep in mind - no one - literally no one expects "normal" social interaction to resume for quite some time.

Also, I see nothing to worry about in Wisconsin stats. Deaths there have leveled off which is the real measure you should be looking at. Number of confirmed cases can increase just by increasing the number of people tested - which presumably is still happening (hard to find data on this). Deaths in Wisconsin due to covid-19 have stayed in the 4 to 19 per day range (average of a little under 10 per day) for the last month.

Jito463 · #9 05-03-2020, 07:32 AM

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Keep in mind - no one - literally no one expects "normal" social interaction to resume for quite some time.

Why not? No seriously, why not? Conservatively, over 95% of people who get this are asymptomatic, potentially 97-99%. As such, why should we be concerned about normal social interactions?

When I go to church, I still shake hands with people who are comfortable doing so. I never did the whole "fist bump" nonsense, so I still don't (or "elbow bump" now, I suppose).

I've started labeling anyone who pushes for "social distancing", as SDW's - Social Distance Warriors. It's like an SJW, but more distant.

jfrog · #10 05-03-2020, 11:55 AM

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Why not? No seriously, why not? Conservatively, over 95% of people who get this are asymptomatic, potentially 97-99%. As such, why should we be concerned about normal social interactions?

Because if our hospitals get overwhelmed as this virus has proven capable of doing then the deaths we see from it and other medical conditions that can no longer be properly treated shoot way up.

Curious if you have an actual source for your figures above?

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When I go to church, I still shake hands with people who are comfortable doing so. I never did the whole "fist bump" nonsense, so I still don't (or "elbow bump" now, I suppose).

If everyone everywhere treated this as you do then would our hospitals get overwhelmed?

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I've started labeling anyone who pushes for "social distancing", as SDW's - Social Distance Warriors. It's like an SJW, but more distant.

Maybe it's people like you that are the reason the lockdown won't end quickly. Thanks for screwing it up for the rest of us!