Scientist says C19 is man-made or a fluke

[james34]

Suppose the virus is real and man made or man altered, and suppose you had a government that would purposely spread it around the country to create the need for government overreach. Suppose you knew this was the case. What would your reaction be? Would you adhere to the governments every command, knowing all the while your country and freedoms were being ripped away. Even more appalling is the call for silence. Dont say anything or its fear mongering.

[james34]

Military test Edit
From September 20 to 27, 1950, the U.S. Navy released the pathogens off the shore of San Francisco. Based on results from monitoring equipment at 43 locations around the city, the Army determined that San Francisco had received enough of a dose for nearly all of the city's 800,000 residents to inhale at least 5,000 of the particles.[1][2][3]

Illnesses Edit
On October 11, 1950, eleven residents checked into Stanford Hospital for very rare, serious urinary tract infections. Although ten residents recovered, one patient, Edward J. Nevin, died three weeks later. None of the other hospitals in the city reported similar spikes in cases, and all 11 victims had urinary-tract infections following medical procedures, suggesting that the source of their infections lay inside the hospital.[1] Cases of pneumonia in San Francisco also increased after Serratia marcescens was released, though a causal relation has not been conclusively established.[4][5] The bacterium was also combined with phenol and an anthrax simulant and sprayed across south Dorset by US and UK military scientists as part of the DICE trials which ran from 1971 to 1975.[1][6]

The urinary tract outbreak was so unusual that the Stanford doctors wrote it up for a medical journal.[3]

There was no evidence that the Army had alerted health authorities before it blanketed the region with bacteria. Doctors later wondered whether the experiment might be responsible for heart valve infections around the same time as well as serious infections seen among intravenous drug users in the 1960s and 1970s.[7]

Senate subcommittee hearings Edit
In 1977 Senate subcommittee hearings, the U.S. Army disclosed the existence of the tests. Army officials noted the pneumonia outbreak in their testimony but said any link to their experiments was totally coincidental. The Army pointed out that no other hospitals reported similar outbreaks and all 11 victims had urinary-tract infections following medical procedures, suggesting that the source of their infections lay inside the hospital.[1]

Lawsuit Edit
In 1981 Nevin's surviving family members filed suit against the federal government, alleging negligence and responsibility for the death of Edward J. Nevin, as well as financial and emotional harm caused to Mr. Nevin's wife from the medical costs.

The lower court ruled against them primarily because the bacteria used in the test was unproven to be responsible for Mr. Nevin's death. The Nevin family appealed the suit all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court, which declined to overturn lower court judgments.[1][8][9]

Similar tests Edit
In Senate subcommittee hearings in 1977 the Army revealed:

Between 1949 and 1969 open-air tests of biological agents were conducted 239 times. In 80 of those experiments, the Army said it used live bacteria that its researchers at the time thought were harmless. In the others, it used inert chemicals to simulate bacteria.
In the 1950s army researchers dispersed Serratia on Panama City and Key West Florida with no known illnesses resulting.
In the 1950s army researchers dispersed zinc cadmium sulfide (now a known cancer-causing agent) over Minnesota and other Midwestern states to see how far they would spread in the atmosphere. The particles were detected more than 1,000 miles away in New York state.
Bacillus globigii, never shown to be harmful to people, was released in San Francisco, New York, Washington, D.C., and along the Pennsylvania Turnpike, among other places.
In New York, military researchers in 1966 spread Bacillus subtilis variant Niger, also believed to be harmless, in the subway system by dropping lightbulbs filled with the bacteria onto tracks in stations in midtown Manhattan. The bacteria were carried for miles throughout the subway system. Army officials concluded in a January 1968 report that: "Similar covert attacks with a pathogenic disease-causing agent during peak traffic periods could be expected to expose large numbers of people to infection and subsequent illness or death."
In a May 1965 secret release of Bacillus globigii at Washington's National Airport and its Greyhound Lines bus terminal more than 130 passengers were exposed to the bacteria traveling to 39 cities in seven states in the two weeks following the mock attack.[1

[james34]

] By January 1942, he had decided that the Jews, Slavs, and other deportees considered undesirable should be killed.[332][e]


Hitler's order for Aktion T4, dated 1 September 1939
The genocide was organised and executed by Heinrich Himmler and Reinhard Heydrich. The records of the Wannsee Conference, held on 20 January 1942 and led by Heydrich, with fifteen senior Nazi officials participating, provide the clearest evidence of systematic planning for the Holocaust. On 22 February, Hitler was recorded saying, "we shall regain our health only by eliminating the Jews".[333] Similarly, at a meeting in July 1941 with leading functionaries of the Eastern territories, Hitler said that the easiest way to quickly pacify the areas would be best achieved by "shooting everyone who even looks odd".[334] Although no direct order from Hitler authorising the mass killings has surfaced,[335] his public speeches, orders to his generals, and the diaries of Nazi officials demonstrate that he conceived and authorised the extermination of European Jewry.[336][337] During the war, Hitler repeatedly stated his prophecy of 1939 was being fulfilled, namely, that a world war would bring about the annihilation of the Jewish race.[338] Hitler approved the Einsatzgruppen—killing squads that followed the German army through Poland, the Baltic, and the Soviet Union[339]—and was well informed about their activities.[336][340] By summer 1942, Auschwitz concentration camp was expanded to accommodate large numbers of deportees for killing or enslavement.[341] Scores of other concentration camps and satellite camps were set up throughout Europe, with several camps devoted exclusively to extermination.[342]

Between 1939 and 1945, the Schutzstaffel (SS), assisted by collaborationist governments and recruits from occupied countries, was responsible for the deaths of at least eleven million non-combatants,[343][329] including about 6 million Jews (representing two-thirds of the Jewish population of Europe),[344][f] and between 200,000 and 1,500,000 Romani people.[346][344] Deaths took place in concentration and extermination camps, ghettos, and through mass executions. Many victims of the Holocaust were gassed to death, while others died of starvation or disease or while working as slave labourers.[347] In addition to eliminating Jews, the Nazis planned to reduce the population of the conquered territories by 30 million people through starvation in an action called the Hunger Plan. Food supplies would be diverted to the German army and German civilians. Cities would be razed and the land allowed to return to forest or resettled by German colonists.[348] Together, the Hunger Plan and Generalplan Ost would have led to the starvation of 80 million people in the Soviet Union.[349] These partially fulfilled plans resulted in additional deaths, bringing the total number of civilians and prisoners of war who died in the democide to an estimated 19.3 million people.[350]

Hitler's policies resulted in the killing of nearly two million non-Jewish Polish civilians,[351] over three million Soviet prisoners of war,[352] communists and other political opponents, homosexuals, the physically and mentally disabled,[353][354] Jehovah's Witnesses, Adventists, and trade unionists. Hitler did not speak publicly about the killings, and seems never to have visited the concentration camps.[355]

The Nazis embraced the concept of racial hygiene. On 15 September 1935, Hitler presented two laws—known as the Nuremberg Laws—to the Reichstag. The laws banned sexual relations and marriages between Aryans and Jews and were later extended to include "Gypsies, Negroes or their bastard offspring".[356] The laws stripped all non-Aryans of their German citizenship and forbade the employment of non-Jewish women under the age of 45 in Jewish households.[357] Hitler's early eugenic policies targeted children with physical and developmental disabilities in a programme dubbed Action Brandt, and he later authorised a euthanasia programme for adults with serious mental and physical disabilities, now referred to as

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by james34

Suppose the virus is real and man made or man altered, and suppose you had a government that would purposely spread it around the country to create the need for government overreach. Suppose you knew this was the case. What would your reaction be? Would you adhere to the governments every command, knowing all the while your country and freedoms were being ripped away. Even more appalling is the call for silence. Dont say anything or its fear mongering.

It's fascinating. On the one hand the government and media are pathological liars, but on the other hand there's a pandemic because the government and media said so.

[james34]

Originally Posted by Esaias

It's fascinating. On the one hand the government and media are pathological liars, but on the other hand there's a pandemic because the government and media said so.

I've spent countless hours and innumerable posts it seems to say the above , this is the reality we are in.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by diakonos

Right. But a YouTube video says that there’s no evidence covid exists so “YOU people” believe anything by a supposedly authority figure.

I have a whole family who follows my ministry who are struck with COVID-19 with about 60 in their church who likewise got it. They asked for much prayer.

[n david]

Originally Posted by james34

Suppose the virus is real and man made or man altered, and suppose you had a government that would purposely spread it around the country to create the need for government overreach. Suppose you knew this was the case. What would your reaction be? Would you adhere to the governments every command, knowing all the while your country and freedoms were being ripped away. Even more appalling is the call for silence. Dont say anything or its fear mongering.

Except this originated in China and is global.

[diakonos]

Originally Posted by mfblume

I have a whole family who follows my ministry who are struck with COVID-19 with about 60 in their church who likewise got it. They asked for much prayer.

Pray their cases aren’t severe.

[james34]

Originally Posted by n david

Except this originated in China and is global.

Ok so you dont want to play.

[Evang.Benincasa]

What’s the game?