The "Light Doctrine"

[Monterrey]

The Light doctrine was very strong in the Pacific Northwest for a time. Conquerors Bible College had some teachers from the Western Oregon and Western Washington districts that believed it, and Clyde Haney believed it. Back in the 70's and 80's there was a determined push from many out in those areas to correct that false doctrine with Dugas being one who helped further the 3 step Acts 2:38 doctrine in that area.

When I began to research this I also found out that ABI in Minneapolis had some on their staff who believed it and for a time there were some who came out of that college who had leaned that way. It does seem to have more roots in the north than the south.

Having pastored in the Central North for a time I did come across some older saints that remembered that teaching and that is actually the first ones I heard it from. It was a little more common than we would think today. That would have been back in the 90's.

I think that as a whole, within the Oneness Apostolic Pentecostal movement, that it has kinda died out or those that believed it have moved on to "More Light".

[Michael The Disciple]

Theres a video out there where David Bernard refuses to say the Oneness message of who Jesus is.....is a heaven or hell issue. Does that make him a "light" teacher?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Theres a video out there where David Bernard refuses to say the Oneness message of who Jesus is.....is a heaven or hell issue. Does that make him a "light" teacher?

Mike? There is a video out there? Really? That's your proof.

[Bro Flame]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Theres a video out there where David Bernard refuses to say the Oneness message of who Jesus is.....is a heaven or hell issue. Does that make him a "light" teacher?

Are you referencing the video where Brother Bernard and another preacher, by name of Brother Cook (maybe?), debate the Oneness and Trinitarian view of God?

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Monterrey

The Light doctrine was very strong in the Pacific Northwest for a time. Conquerors Bible College had some teachers from the Western Oregon and Western Washington districts that believed it, and Clyde Haney believed it. Back in the 70's and 80's there was a determined push from many out in those areas to correct that false doctrine with Dugas being one who helped further the 3 step Acts 2:38 doctrine in that area.

When I began to research this I also found out that ABI in Minneapolis had some on their staff who believed it and for a time there were some who came out of that college who had leaned that way. It does seem to have more roots in the north than the south.

Having pastored in the Central North for a time I did come across some older saints that remembered that teaching and that is actually the first ones I heard it from. It was a little more common than we would think today. That would have been back in the 90's.

I think that as a whole, within the Oneness Apostolic Pentecostal movement, that it has kinda died out or those that believed it have moved on to "More Light".

Is the "Light doctrine" a leftover from the (misnamed) "PCI view"? I seem to recall many early Pentecostals (both Oneness and trinitarian) were divided about the status of those who rejected the "current revealed truth" regarding Holy Ghost baptism. Some held those who refused to enter in were cutting themselves off from God and were being left behind to die in the wilderness as the fiery cloudy pillar moved on. Others felt the non Pentecostals were still in the church just unempowered and therefore generally not very useful to God.

The Oneness issue carried that difference with it: those not walking in the current light were those who rejected Oneness, etc, with the same split among Oneness people about how to relate to trinitarians.

Friend of the Bridegroom teaching seems to interact with this as well.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Theres a video out there where David Bernard refuses to say the Oneness message of who Jesus is.....is a heaven or hell issue. Does that make him a "light" teacher?

You definitely don't know what "Light doctrine" is, and you've been corrected on that point numerous times. Yet still you persist...

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Esaias

You definitely don't know what "Light doctrine" is, and you've been corrected on that point numerous times. Yet still you persist...

Here a dispensationalist explains Light Doctrine:

https://www.advanceministries.org/ar...l%20be%20saved.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Esaias

You definitely don't know what "Light doctrine" is, and you've been corrected on that point numerous times. Yet still you persist...

Mike doesn't care about correction from anyone, or anything. If it isn't coming from his chimney it just isn't smoke. Maybe one day Satan will land his flying saucer on the white house lawn and request they send for Mike.Or God will send His LOGOS space suit down to earth and only rapture Mike. Anyway you cut it, Mike only follows Mike.

[Scott Pitta]

Esaias is correct. The light doctrine was focused on soteriology, not other aspects of theology.

I am not sure geographically how wide spread it was, or is. But yes, it was common in the Pacific Northwest. Not sure about how ABI fits into the equation. Howard Goss was not from the Pacific Northwest, so I am uncertain how widespread it was.

[Light]

Originally Posted by Monterrey

The Light doctrine was very strong in the Pacific Northwest for a time. Conquerors Bible College had some teachers from the Western Oregon and Western Washington districts that believed it, and Clyde Haney believed it. Back in the 70's and 80's there was a determined push from many out in those areas to correct that false doctrine with Dugas being one who helped further the 3 step Acts 2:38 doctrine in that area.

When I began to research this I also found out that ABI in Minneapolis had some on their staff who believed it and for a time there were some who came out of that college who had leaned that way. It does seem to have more roots in the north than the south.

Having pastored in the Central North for a time I did come across some older saints that remembered that teaching and that is actually the first ones I heard it from. It was a little more common than we would think today. That would have been back in the 90's.

I think that as a whole, within the Oneness Apostolic Pentecostal movement, that it has kinda died out or those that believed it have moved on to "More Light".

Ask any pastor this question Will A person be lost who doesn’t follow (obey) Acts 2:38???