Tattoos

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by consapente89

Jude 1:8 (KJV) Likewise also these [filthy] dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.

Do a little research on “defile the flesh”. May be surprised and wha you find.

Bro, Jude wasn't talking about tattooing, or painting. But using the word "to stain" in the Judaic sense of "to be stained with sin."

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Leviticus 19:28 KJV
Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the Lord .

Leviticus 19:28 is referring to ritual self mutilation, 1st Kings 18:24-29, and Deuteronomy 14:1.

[diakonos]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Leviticus 19:28 KJV
Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the Lord .

For the dead is the context.

[diakonos]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Bro, Jude wasn't talking about tattooing, or painting. But using the word "to stain" in the Judaic sense of "to be stained with sin."

Thank you...

[diakonos]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Leviticus 19:28 is referring to ritual self mutilation, 1st Kings 18:24-29, and Deuteronomy 14:1.

Thanks again

[diakonos]

Ok, ok... so I saw that someone posted a video of a guy justifying Christians getting tattoos. And I’ve never heard a good response as to why Christians should not get tattoos. So...

[consapente89]

Jesus turned water into alcoholic wine so everyone could get drunk. Nothing wrong with cannabis as long as you’re sanctified enough to handle the effects. And now there is no scriptural basis against tattoos. This forum sure is producing a strange breed of “Apostolic”.

[Nicodemus1968]

Originally Posted by consapente89

Jesus turned water into alcoholic wine so everyone could get drunk. Nothing wrong with cannabis as long as you’re sanctified enough to handle the effects. And now there is no scriptural basis against tattoos. This forum sure is producing a strange breed of “Apostolic”.

Welcome to the New Age Apostolic Church. With all the craziness we’re seeing in the world, you don’t think it creeps in unawares in the church?...

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by diakonos

For the dead is the context.

Two separate clauses: no cuttings for the dead (that's one clause) NOR (a negative conjunction joining two clauses) print any marks upon you (a second clause). Two clauses, two things. It does not read "no cuttings nor printing any marks for the dead", but "no cuttings for the dead nor printing any marks upon you."

Young's Literal Translation: ‘And a cutting for the soul ye do not put in your flesh; and a writing, a cross-mark, ye do not put on you; I [am] Jehovah.

Brenton's English Translation of the LXX: 28And ye shall not make cuttings in your body for a dead body, and ye shall not inscribe on yourselves any marks. I am the Lord your God.

Orthodox Jewish Bible: 28 Ye shall not make any cuttings in your basar for the dead, nor tattoo any marks upon you: I am Hashem.

Ellicot's Commentary: Nor print any marks upon you.—This, according to the ancient authorities, was effected by making punctures in the skin to impress certain figures or words, and then filling the cut places with stibium, ink, or some other colour. The practice of tattooing prevailed among all nations of antiquity, both among savages and civilised nations, The slave had impressed upon his body the initials of his master, the soldier those of his general, and the worshipper the image of his tutelar deity. To obviate this disfiguration of the body which bore the impress of God’s image, and yet to exhibit the emblem of his creed, the Mosaic Law enacted that the Hebrew should have phylacteries which he is to bind as “a sign” upon his hand, and as “a memorial” between his eyes “that the Lord’s law may be in his mouth” (Exodus 13:9; Exodus 13:16; Deuteronomy 6:8; Deuteronomy 11:18).

Leviticus 19:26 KJV
Ye shall not eat any thing with the blood: neither shall ye use enchantment, nor observe times.

Verse 26 likewise contains two clauses, but nobody is going to argue that it's okay to use enchantments and observe times as long as it doesn't involve eating blood.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Leviticus 19:28 is referring to ritual self mutilation, 1st Kings 18:24-29, and Deuteronomy 14:1.

It is also referring to the common heathen practice of printing marks upon the body via burning, scarification, tattooing, henna, etc.

There are two separate clauses: no cuttings for the dead (that's one clause) NOR (a negative conjunction joining two clauses) print any marks upon you (a second clause). Two clauses, two things. It does not read "no cuttings nor printing any marks for the dead", but "no cuttings for the dead nor printing any marks upon you."

Young's Literal Translation: ‘And a cutting for the soul ye do not put in your flesh; and a writing, a cross-mark, ye do not put on you; I [am] Jehovah.

Brenton's English Translation of the LXX: 28And ye shall not make cuttings in your body for a dead body, and ye shall not inscribe on yourselves any marks. I am the Lord your God.

Orthodox Jewish Bible: 28 Ye shall not make any cuttings in your basar for the dead, nor tattoo any marks upon you: I am Hashem.

Ellicot's Commentary: Nor print any marks upon you.—This, according to the ancient authorities, was effected by making punctures in the skin to impress certain figures or words, and then filling the cut places with stibium, ink, or some other colour. The practice of tattooing prevailed among all nations of antiquity, both among savages and civilised nations, The slave had impressed upon his body the initials of his master, the soldier those of his general, and the worshipper the image of his tutelar deity. To obviate this disfiguration of the body which bore the impress of God’s image, and yet to exhibit the emblem of his creed, the Mosaic Law enacted that the Hebrew should have phylacteries which he is to bind as “a sign” upon his hand, and as “a memorial” between his eyes “that the Lord’s law may be in his mouth” (Exodus 13:9; Exodus 13:16; Deuteronomy 6:8; Deuteronomy 11:18).

Leviticus 19:26 KJV
Ye shall not eat any thing with the blood: neither shall ye use enchantment, nor observe times.

Verse 26 likewise contains two clauses, but nobody is going to argue that it's okay to use enchantments and observe times as long as it doesn't involve eating blood.