If vaccines work...

[james34]

The media teaches that unvaccinated and unmasked people are bad. Once you establish who is bad in the minds of the koolaid drinking majority of subservient Americans, you can isolate the rest and increase pressure on them to become compliant little citizens or suffer the consequences, where anything goes as far as repercussions for being disobedient are concerned.

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by james34

The media teaches that unvaccinated and unmasked people are bad. Once you establish who is bad in the minds of the koolaid drinking majority of subservient Americans, you can isolate the rest and increase pressure on them to become compliant little citizens or suffer the consequences, where anything goes as far as repercussions for being disobedient are concerned.

And what an easy boogeyman the unvaccinated are. They jump into deep and crazy conspiracy theories and genuinely believe them. They aren't weighing all the science, they look for any scientific sounding fact they can hold up to justify their conspiracy theory guided views.

That said, there are good reasons to be skeptical. All the data isn't in. The science isn't settled.

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by JoeBandy

I have asked the same question. I have seen some very angry post on social media from people who are vaccinated toward unvaccinated. Why are they so angry? What are they scared of? If they believe that the vaccine works are they not protected? If they are so against the unvaccinated then leave us alone.. if your theory is correct then we will all die off.

All things being equal, it's not good for them if the unvaccinated get sick and die off either. Less people means a labor disruption - meaning jobs will be lost and retraining will have to occur. Less people means falling home prices, generally a bad thing. Hospitals filled up with sick covid patients means worse medical care for the vaccinated.

But maybe more importantly, the hope is that the pandemic will end - and it's probably not going to. The unvaccinated are the scapegoat that gets blamed for that not materializing.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by jfrog

But maybe more importantly, the hope is that the pandemic will end - and it's probably not going to. The unvaccinated are the scapegoat that gets blamed for that not materializing.

The reason why it won't isn't because of unvaccinated, but because the United States (as many other first world countries) are super unhealthy.

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

The reason why it won't isn't because of unvaccinated, but because the United States (as many other first world countries) are super unhealthy.

No disputing that USA isn't very healthy - especially south eastern USA. But that isn't why it won't end. Healthy people and unhealthy people get the virus.

[JoeBandy]

Originally Posted by jfrog

All things being equal, it's not good for them if the unvaccinated get sick and die off either. Less people means a labor disruption - meaning jobs will be lost and retraining will have to occur. Less people means falling home prices, generally a bad thing. Hospitals filled up with sick covid patients means worse medical care for the vaccinated.

But maybe more importantly, the hope is that the pandemic will end - and it's probably not going to. The unvaccinated are the scapegoat that gets blamed for that not materializing.

However.. in a pure socialistic environment labor, jobs, home prices , nor full hospital beds really matter.

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by JoeBandy

However.. in a pure socialistic environment labor, jobs, home prices , nor full hospital beds really matter.

You are incorrect.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by jfrog

No disputing that USA isn't very healthy - especially south eastern USA. But that isn't why it won't end. Healthy people and unhealthy people get the virus.

Actually healthy people don't get the virus. If they do, they don't even notice it, and therefore aren't placed in any statistics. Now, we may give some personal testimonies about so n so is healthy, but he or she got the virus. Well, if they go the virus they weren't healthy. When the black plague hit Europe it changed the known world. Those who survived the plague survived because of health. Not because they were CrossFitters But because they were healthy, genetically strong.

[Jito463]

Originally Posted by jfrog

And what an easy boogeyman the unvaccinated are. They jump into deep and crazy conspiracy theories and genuinely believe them.

So what "deep and crazy conspiracy theories" have I espoused?

Originally Posted by jfrog

They aren't weighing all the science, they look for any scientific sounding fact they can hold up to justify their conspiracy theory guided views.

Actually, I find many non vaccinated people are more informed, because they're constantly being forced to verify data due to badgering from others (such as Scott).

Originally Posted by jfrog

That said, there are good reasons to be skeptical. All the data isn't in. The science isn't settled.

Science is a process, not a conclusion in and of itself. There are things that anyone can confirm, and as such it's "settled" because everyone agrees on it; but if someone can come along and provide an alternate theory with proof, then they're still "following the science", even if they may end up being wrong.

[Originalist]

Today, I received nature's inoculation from Covid. My test came back positive. Therefore, I am now inoculated. No vaccine needed.