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Old 06-18-2007, 08:26 PM
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aren't those two different authorities though? If name means authority you are either invoking two contradictory authorities or you are being redundant. oh there is that word again!
No not two authorities... Redundant is apparantly not of concern in Pentecost. I have heard people say "In Jesus Name" or "Hallelujah!" dozens of times in one single prayer.
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Given the fact that much of modern Christendom is mired in the trinitarian doctrine, and that the triune formula is identified with that doctrine, this represents a step back toward error and is an unacceptable compromise.

A trinitrian coming toward an understanding of the Mighty God in Christ using this hybrid and unscriptural formula might be one thing; but for a person who knows Truth to advocate such a thing is moving back toward darkness.
But what if one could reach many more by doing this??

I have mixed feelings about it myself.
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Old 06-18-2007, 08:29 PM
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aren't those two different authorities though? If name means authority you are either invoking two contradictory authorities or you are being redundant. oh there is that word again!
how is it contradictory? it all represents God...

I am maintaining peace and removing a reason for you guys to fight....
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how is it contradictory? it all represents God...

I am maintaining peace and removing a reason for you guys to fight....
BUT WE DO NOT BACK DOWN FROM A FIGHT!!!! YOU ARE ASHAMED OF THE GOSPEL!!

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Given the fact that much of modern Christendom is mired in the trinitarian doctrine, and that the triune formula is identified with that doctrine, this represents a step back toward error and is an unacceptable compromise.

A trinitrian coming toward an understanding of the Mighty God in Christ using this hybrid and unscriptural formula might be one thing; but for a person who knows Truth to advocate such a thing is moving back toward darkness.

Interesting when words of instructions given by the Author of life are deemed "darkness", "unacceptable" and "compromise".... I won't join that chorus or march in that parade....
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BUT WE DO NOT BACK DOWN FROM A FIGHT!!!! YOU ARE ASHAMED OF THE GOSPEL!!


No, but I am ashamed at seeing all the fighting that goes on between "oneness" and "trinitarian" bruthas....
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okay, folks, it has been fun conversing tonight....but it is time for me to retire for the night....I'm going on only 2.5 hrs of sleep in the last 36 hrs.....good night, bruthas!
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okay, folks, it has been fun conversing tonight....but it is time for me to retire for the night....I'm going on only 2.5 hrs of sleep in the last 36 hrs.....good night, bruthas!
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I must be missing the point here. Why is it that oneness must fight for their belief on a "ONENESS" board?
Maybe I am a dullard, but again I must be missing the boat here.

Trinitarian belief is damnable heresy. It is not founded upon biblical precepts. No where in the Bible is God called "three" of anything. It just isn't there, yet oneness is being argued here, of all places?
Amazing.

I do not consider trinitarians "brutha" in the Lord. As a former pastor said "If I miss them in the Lord, I'll catch 'em in Adam". That's as close as it gets in this respect for we are not born of the same church.

When someone is born to titles and another is born to the name, whose family are they in when the Bible says that the family of God is named together? Titles and name are fundamentally different in nature.

Father, Son and Holy Ghost are generalizations of the modes of God.
The name of Jesus is specific to God in the flesh reconciling the world unto himself. There is a huge difference here.

If you are not baptized in the name as found in Acts 2:38, then there is a need for this in your life.

I will come back to this later...
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NI, Are we overreacting a bit? No one is arguing that we should stop calling on Jesus at the baptismal ceremony.
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