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Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968
Could you give me a quick synopsis why people are so against this community?
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Overall, I consider myself as the best friend to the community, and I would love for them to return to a solid Christian base. (That would require, to start, dumping the false entity yahweh and the gibberish yahshua. Best, they should simply return to the AV and the proper names that are there, including
Jesus, and Jehovah, and the LORD. They should publicly renounce trying to put out an improved Homestead Heritage version as an error.) All that would help the needed water baptism correction.
Then there would be hope that they could be a true Christian beacon, rather than a gnostic/pagan side-show (no other way to describe yahweh-yahshua-worship their key beliefs, often kept hidden hush-hush), with good crafts.
And I saw the pure and beautiful beginnings, and thankfully give honour where due. Their ministry brought me to faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. What happened in the 70s was truly amazing. This lifting up of the vision and dedication separates me from almost all the public critics, who have their own blogs and videos, and find little positive to say.
Many are against them for subjective reasons. The ministry was too harsh and demanding. (They can work people very hard and have no regular sabbath, neither creation 7th-day or sunday.) They had some tragedies and situations that really felt wrong and were mishandled. (These are hard and painful to talk about.) They are sketchy in explanations, and have a habit of saying what is convenient. And sometimes they simply rewrite history, personal and community wide (generally they avoid outright lies, but lines can be crossed.) They are too scripted. Their doctrine is not orthodox Christian (not my complaint
). Their structures and finances are hidden. False prophecies. They intervened in marriages with a heavy hand (they do not have any true marriage permanence doctrines and have countenanced adulterous relationships, even their formation.) They want you to see
the ministry as Christ in the flesh. They do not seem to realize the covid sham truths. They downgrade the blood of Jesus. They want complete acceptance on areas where they really have no consistent doctrine, like eschatology.
And I generally give them a semi-pass on most all of that. Perfection and even excellence is hard to attain. And some of these are only lightly addressed in oneness circles, like sabbath and marriage permanence, so many of the readers here might shrug.
Although I do see a connection between the tragedies and their yahweh-worship.
There has been surprises, like using chemotherapy and a person recently getting the jab with approval. And embracing coffee and chocolate after decades of excellently teaching, as Holy Spirit revelation, that coffee is a serpent! Now they have a coffee shop, and many of us know that a few cups of coffee a day can really damage ones walk with the Lord Jesus.
So your question has a few different edges. Many leave Homestead Heritage and lose Christianity completely (no solid base any more, one family immediately started attacking the name of Jesus) while others are satisfied with simple Pentecostal and Baptist environments. And, to be fair, sometimes people do leave because of rebellion and sin against God, they want to splurge in the world. Thus they will attack Homestead from psycho-babble anti-cult perspectives. That was a big part of an anti-Homestead movement 15-20 years back. So I was defending them in public forums (Factnet and Topix.) This led to our direct discussions on the Names and the Bible.
Hope this was a reasonable overview.
Btw, if people want to join up with them, that is their decision. Maybe they believe in "Yahweh" already. Maybe they like the corruption versions. Maybe they are not apostolic water baptism doctrine. Maybe they don't mind some slippery responses.
My point is simply to encourage them to be informed, eyes open. If they join up, I wash them the personal best, despite the prayers to a dark-side entity.
Blessings and grace in Jesus name!
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