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Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968
There should be a thread about, “where did the UPCI, WPF, ALJC, AMF…..” get a lot of their standards, and bylaws from.
For example,
Where did the ________ get….
-Tithing
-Membership dues
-Conferences that charge admission
-Rapture doctrine
-Ministry Retirement Accounts
-Theatre Plays that Charge Admission
-Membership Insurance Plans
-First Lady
Several just want to focus on tithing because it has to deal with individual pockets. However, there is a list of things that organizations, religious no less, require to either benefit the local leadership, or the organization as a whole. I mean there is one organization that I know that you cannot join unless you pay a membership due each month. You also HAVE to sign a statement of faith that you believe in the 2nd coming of Christ.
I mean it could all change, look how it changed from the 80’s, 90’s and even the early 00’s many preachers were against TV’s, now almost all of us have one, yet we call it a phone. Many of us were against Televangelist’s, now many preachers, conferences, have become what they used to stand against.
Give it a couple years, maybe tithing will change. And we’ll all go back to bringing food to the storehouse. That may be needed more than Monopoly money.
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Nicodemus, I know some get in "hero-self-sacrifice-loable" mode and ask "why such a deal with the pockets?" And, who can argue with someone proud of their sacrifices?
But this is the reality, when someone finds out that some minor Holiness things like ladies wearing tights for the snow is not a big deal as someone puts it because is not a "split garment", then that person just say "oh well, that was dumb, not a big deal".
However, when someone realizes that the modern tithing doctrine is a falsehood, that person feels abused, taken advantaged of, especially if you "sacrificed" your household and piled debt, or didn't move to a safer neighborhood, or didn't help parents as much as desired, etc...
Some falsehods you can recover from without much problem and you just overlook them, ... others, in the other hand, do creates strong feelings. Those "next level" falsehoods are usually the ones that give the perpetrator some money, power (controlling), or sex advantage over the deceived one.
I believe the Pentecostal movement has a strong tradition on people's mind that they struggle to get rid of. But I believe the time will come, when preachers and teachers and pastors preaching that doctrine will look bad to the congregations, and lose reputation, and look as deceitful to the people more and more, and it will create a counter reaction and a split. Remember, that lie is so easy to debunk, and the truth is so accessible nowadays. I just hope the split do not end up becoming like those that go all the way even to drop Holiness as some have done. The best case scenario is that the UPCI itself removes the tithing article so other churches that disagree with that obviously false doctrine can be part of the fellowship, so there is no an actual split.
Churches can perfectly function without tithing. There are plenty of examples in other organizations.
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