John3 and Romans2: Part2

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by donfriesen1

Well said.

Thanks for replying.

[COLOR="black"]But this doesn't respond to the situation and in which I had hoped you would tell all what you believe.

You sure demand a lot without reciprocating nearly as much, you know that?

Your contentions in this thread are understood by me to say that the only means to access heaven is the new birth.

My contention has been from the beginning that nobody is "going to heaven", that your idea of people going to heaven is at the root of your theological errors. For whatever reason, you did not want to discuss any of that.

Do those who have only been baptized but not having yet received the Holy Ghost go to heaven or hell, when their sins are forgiven/remitted? You avoided to answer this question, perhaps purposely, more than once.

Good grief, can you not read? My answer was there in the post! What you want to do is pigeon hole people into a false dichotomy to try and force people to agree with you. I clearly stated how I view people who have been baptized, who have repented, who have (fill in the blank). ANYONE who makes ANY movement toward God is showing the work of God in their life UNTIL they REJECT TRUTH. At which point they either never were following God to begin with or have drawn back unto perdition. It doesn't matter what the "point of contention" is, it only matters if they follow Truth, or turn aside from Truth. At whatever point in a person's journey they turn aside from Truth they demonstrate they are not His sheep.

Hello? I thought perhaps you missed my answer but the reality appears to be you AVOIDED it to play this game of "nobody answers my questions". Hey, why do you think we are here to answer your questions? YOU came here with a teaching. We are the ones who ought to be asking the questions of you. Which we have been. And which you have avoided or outright ignored in many cases.

Will you, like Amanda, now turn tail, refusing to answer? I think so, but prove me wrong.

(Get a load of this guy.) You wouldn't last 60 seconds in a boxing gym. If you did that gym sucks. Sir, you have used up all your Federation credits, your wanna be jedi mind tricks don't work on me, and quite honestly you are now slinging bantha poodoo around the thread.

Esaias will be able to say truthfully he responded to my question but everyone knows you've again dodged being direct. Its time to include Ro2.12-16/the conscience/Ro5.13 in your theology, making it possible for you to openly answer questions like these. Do it today. Plz let me know when you do.

You are so full of yourself it almost makes me chuckle.

When are you gonna get saved? Because I will be straight forward and direct and say BASED ON YOUR STATEMENTS IN THIS THREAD I believe you to be 100% a clear and obvious heretic and are therefore under a strong delusion likely sent by God Himself to make sure you get what you really want - separation from God's Truth. Why? Because you can't stand the Truth.

I PROVED the "Gentiles" in Romans 2 are Israelites descended from Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob who were members of the New Covenant. I proved it straight from the Bible, letting the Bible be its own interpreter. I didn't drink your kool-aid so now you just pretend as if everyone is deficient in their moral character because they don't agree with you.

Typical cult behavior, if you ask me. Next you'll be claiming to be the Last Day Prophet of God (position already taken by the way by some guy on shortwave radio).

Your hubris is unentitled and quite frankly you have become boring. You also have no etiquette coming in here and literally insulting everyone who has engaged with you. It's not only boring, but boorish.