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Old 08-02-2025, 10:41 PM
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Re: John MacArthur Didn't like to speak in tongues

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Amazing that they actually made something like that in Hollywood. The blood of Jesus dripping down the hill...mixing with the rain that the lepers are standing in....
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Re: John MacArthur Didn't like to speak in tongues

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Hi Diakonos,

John MacArthur considered the blood of Jesus as irrelevant, only a metaphor for his death.

There is quite a bit of good material on this available.

One of my Baptist friends says that this is a frequent failure of some segments of Calvinism.

Steven
Steve, could you explain a bit more clearly what you mean?

Maybe explain the difference of how you see the blood of Jesus compared to how MacArthur saw the blood of Jesus.
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John MacArthur hated anything Pentecostal, charismatic, Oneness, holiness, you name it. I remember seeing a video where a man got up in one of his services and rebuked him for teaching Cessationist doctrine.

I thank God for the Holy Ghost. I thank God that I speak in a language that the enemy cannot understand. It is a sweet, comforting, convicting, powerful thing sent straight from Heaven. My heart genuinely aches for the self-professing Christians that speak so strongly against such a precious, holy, and pure gift.
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Re: John MacArthur Didn't like to speak in tongues

The enemy can’t understand?
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John MacArthur hated anything Pentecostal, charismatic, Oneness, holiness, you name it. I remember seeing a video where a man got up in one of his services and rebuked him for teaching Cessationist doctrine.

I thank God for the Holy Ghost. I thank God that I speak in a language that the enemy cannot understand. It is a sweet, comforting, convicting, powerful thing sent straight from Heaven. My heart genuinely aches for the self-professing Christians that speak so strongly against such a precious, holy, and pure gift.
What do you mean when you say “I speak in a language, the enemy cannot understand.” ?

I take it the enemy is the devil and not visitors who would enter a church service?
Could you share a few verses concerning your statement?
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There is no scriptural evidence that I'm aware of that says the enemy, the devil, what have you can't understand you when you pray in the Holy Ghost. But I've always felt like he couldn't, considering praying in the Spirit is a direct communication between you and God. The devil isn't all-knowing like God. Of course, I know "feelings" aren't something we should go off of. So my statement was just that -- my feeling.
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Re: John MacArthur Didn't like to speak in tongues

The devil also is not omnipresent. Yet, most everyone swears that they fight him on the daily.
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Perhaps people get the idea from One Corinthians 14:2

For one who speaks in a tongue speaks not to men but to God; for no one understands him, but he utters mysteries in the Spirit.
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I remember seeing a video where a man got up in one of his services and rebuked him for teaching Cessationist doctrine.
Which, was rather ignorant. If a stranger stood up in your church and started rebuking your pastor would you hear him out?

No, you would not!
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The devil also is not omnipresent. Yet, most everyone swears that they fight him on the daily.
It's ALMOST as if mainstream Christianity isn't actually Christianity, but some other religion...
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