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Old 02-23-2007, 10:25 PM
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Even Jeff Arnold says some are stuck ... on just knowing THE MESSAGE .... see his 2007 Because of the Times message ...
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Old 02-23-2007, 10:25 PM
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Jesus Christ and Him crucified...in other words, The Gospel.
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Old 02-23-2007, 10:25 PM
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Acts 2:38 is the response to the message.
part of the response to the message ....
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Old 02-23-2007, 10:27 PM
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that I may know in his power, resurrection and fellowship of his suffering ....
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Old 02-23-2007, 10:28 PM
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Jesus Christ and Him crucified...in other words, The Gospel.
That's churchy speak...

What does "Jesus Christ and Him Crucified" mean to anyone unchurched? How do you take the churchified message and put it in language the unchurched can understand and respond to?
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Old 02-23-2007, 10:30 PM
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When did Acts 2:38 become THE MESSAGE ... don't mean it in a mocking manner ... but it is interesting how is some church culture that's what it is ...

What happened to loving God first w/ all your might, strength, heart, etc. ... loving your neighbor ... I could go on about THE MESSAGE.
It became the message just a little under 2000 years ago
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Old 02-23-2007, 10:31 PM
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Even Jeff Arnold says some are stuck ... on just knowing THE MESSAGE .... see his 2007 Because of the Times message ...
Jeff arnold says things I wouldn't repeat in mixed company
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What's the actual message?
Let's see, that would be the gospel message, death, burial, and resurrection Of Jesus. The death through repentance, burial in baptism, and ressurection into new life through the infilling of the Holy Ghost. That's the start or new birth.

Then there's a lot to learn and live after that. The Kingdom of God is rightousness, peace and joy in the Holy Ghost. Grow from there.
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Old 02-23-2007, 10:32 PM
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Daniel, nobody has argued that Yadon believe anything other than what Yadon claimed to believe. that isnt the question. what has become the question is that todays new converts to the so called PCI doctrine, arent converts to the same thing that those men believe.

todays crew down play the Oneness message as well as the Acts experiance. Yadon, didnt believe Acts was essential of course, but that doesnt mean that he down played its importance.

Todays crop often dont care if a person ever is baptized in Jesus name, while everyone that the old PCI men preached to, that responded to the message, did in fact experaince all of Acts 2:38....

and the Message is the Gospel. Acts is the proper responce to the Gospel. (this one is for Ron)
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Old 02-23-2007, 10:32 PM
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The message is that "God so loved the world that he gave His only begotten Son...."

His death, burial and resurrection was the personification of that message.

Our repentance, baptism and reception of the Holy Ghost is our response to the message.

Our living a holy and godly life is the continuation of the relationship that was began at opur identification with the message.
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