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06-27-2007, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by sola gratia
See how even within oneness ranks there are a variety of opinions. I have spent years studying this... intensly... I lean towards trinitarianism as a result of those studies... however it is flawed.... AS ARE ALL GODHEAD DOCTRINES
It is finite man's best attempt to understand infinite God
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Are the Godhead doctrines flawed or does it have to do with Christologies? Seriously, I think most Oneness understand who God is, but find difficulty with God manifest in flesh.
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06-27-2007, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ReformedDave
My 'problem' is not with someone taking the Bible as authoritative. I believe that. The problem is one with you and your extreme ability to change your position every 5 minutes. That's why I consider you invalid. You cannot or choose not to think through propositions and come to a clear cut conclusion.....At least you are consistently inconsistent.
I strongly disagree with pastor Epley but I know where he stands. He is consistent.
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06-27-2007, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by mizpeh
Oneness get the same from Trinitarians. So who is the worse of the two? Or are they both behaving just as badly as the other.
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JUST CHRISTIANS BEHAVING VERY BADLY!
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06-27-2007, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by sola gratia
See how even within oneness ranks there are a variety of opinions. I have spent years studying this... intensly... I lean towards trinitarianism as a result of those studies... however it is flawed.... AS ARE ALL GODHEAD DOCTRINES
It is finite man's best attempt to understand infinite God
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You find just as many variations within the Trinity camp as well. I have heard every Trinitarian argument and viewpoint under the sun and as well the different OP viewpoints and have come to the conclusion that the OP viewpoint I have is the most sound scripturally and logically
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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06-27-2007, 07:09 PM
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crakjak
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
You find just as many variations within the Trinity camp as well. I have heard every Trinitarian argument and viewpoint under the sun and as well the different OP viewpoints and have come to the conclusion that the OP viewpoint I have is the most sound scripturally and logically
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I agree, that my viewpoint is the most sound scripturally and logically. 
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06-27-2007, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by sola gratia
Worse Bro - they label trinitarians as pagans, dogs, deceivers, and false prophets... and actually some worse
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Hmmm...let's see. I have been called false prophet, false brother, false Christian, not christian, cultist, heretic, deceiver...I have been told I hate Christ and I Hate God and I have been told that they wished this was back in John Calvin's day so they could watch me burn alive at the stake...oh yeah I have been called demon possessed...as well as a few other epithets no need to mention. OPs are not worse than Trinitarians. They both have cavemen in their camps. This is one reason I stopped going to Paltalk...it was sickening to watch them go back and forth.
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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06-27-2007, 07:12 PM
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crakjak
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Hmmm...let's see. I have been called false prophet, false brother, false Christian, not christian, cultist, heretic, deceiver...I have been told I hate Christ and I Hate God and I have been told that they wished this was back in John Calvin's day so they could watch me burn alive at the stake...oh yeah I have been called demon possessed...as well as a few other epithets no need to mention. OPs are not worse than Trinitarians. They both have cavemen in their camps. This is one reason I stopped going to Paltalk...it was sickening to watch them go back and forth.
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I didn't know that BP had been in the on Paltalk in the past!
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06-27-2007, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by crakjak
I didn't know that BP had been in the on Paltalk in the past! |
Hmm...who knows. I have not been on in years. There used to be this guy called 31inch preacher that always sounded like he was trying to preach and he would be wheezing into his microphone and really just sounded kinda embarrassing
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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06-27-2007, 10:29 PM
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crakjak
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Hmm...who knows. I have not been on in years. There used to be this guy called 31inch preacher that always sounded like he was trying to preach and he would be wheezing into his microphone and really just sounded kinda embarrassing
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Ahhh....humanity!
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06-28-2007, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
You find just as many variations within the Trinity camp as well. I have heard every Trinitarian argument and viewpoint under the sun and as well the different OP viewpoints and have come to the conclusion that the OP viewpoint I have is the most sound scripturally and logically
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Isn't this the mantra of EVERYONE op and Trinitarian!?!
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