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Old 06-30-2007, 10:04 AM
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Not to side track this discussion too much... but everyone is uber sensitive about the Nazi term and rightly so I suppose, but why is no one simiarly riled about the Commie comments?
Because we have not been educated enough to realize that Communists have killed way more people than the Nazi's did. Besides almost everybody knows commies are leftist so that would make them liberal........
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Old 06-30-2007, 10:09 AM
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Not to side track this discussion too much... but everyone is uber sensitive about the Nazi term and rightly so I suppose, but why is no one simiarly riled about the Commie comments?
Two reasons;

1. It happened longer ago than WWII

2. Stalin was a tad more discrete in his killing. The horrific images of Cattle Cars on trains filled to capacity with Jews being sent to Death Camps is seared in our minds. Not to mention the gas chambers, furnaces for burning the bodies, gold taken from dental work, etc.
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Old 06-30-2007, 10:20 AM
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Two reasons;

1. It happened longer ago than WWII

2. Stalin was a tad more discrete in his killing. The horrific images of Cattle Cars on trains filled to capacity with Jews being sent to Death Camps is seared in our minds. Not to mention the gas chambers, furnaces for burning the bodies, gold taken from dental work, etc.
I don't wish to be labeled a Nazi sympathizer any more than the next fellow.

It all happened in the past century though. They did have similar philosophies, and while one dished out the death penaly for being a Jew the other dished it out for being a Christian....
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Old 06-30-2007, 10:27 AM
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OK...OK...I understand the problem...it was meant TIC and I mean no offense whatsoever.....
I never thought it might hit someone personal...sorry BOOM...you know me better than that.
I wrote this thread with the utmost in sincerity...for get the whole Aushwitz thing...it was in bad taste and I will edit the original post.

NLYP

OK...so it wont let me edit.....My original thought was that of control and concentration camp...not the holocost and what went on there...again...I do sincerely apologize.
NLYP,
This is what I understood you to mean. We use word analogies all the time. I personally didn't think it was a big deal considering other things discussed about UPC, etc.
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Old 06-30-2007, 12:01 PM
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NLYP,
This is what I understood you to mean. We use word analogies all the time. I personally didn't think it was a big deal considering other things discussed about UPC, etc.
Thanks PO....I guess some folks like to make what ever they want of something...but I promise I never meant it in a way to take away from such a horrific event in history.

I agree with Deacon...I like Apostolic Taliban much better...
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Old 06-30-2007, 03:40 PM
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To my fellow posters,
I am who I am.......
I am consistent with who I am....I do not change with the crowd and to KNOW me is to either love me or hate my guts...really there is no middle ground.
I have been chewed up and spit out and I have done the chewing and the spitting as well. I can go at it with the best of you and both give and take a good beating.
I Love this truth....I love this Gospel...I love this Org and I love my brethren.
Even in the midst of love, sometimes there arises frustration...but my love does not waver.
Over the last day or so, an exchange between me and Wholehearted climaxed with my being quite verbal about my feelings for him and his style of thinking.
This is not so much an apology for what I said to him, but the chance for me to be a man and say that I could have handled it better and not done it publicly.
I am, as it may shock many of you a "Liberal UPCer" and I say that with pride and with no reservation at all. I have friends , GOOD FRIENDS, that are "Moderate UPCers and Conservative UPCers and yes even Rapid Ultra Communistic Conservative. I Celebrate ALL factions of the UPCI and the men that God is using mightily to bring revival into this last day.
I find there is safety in being a "Liberal" because I don't have to ........, or condemn or ridicule anybody for what they believe....Ill take them as they are.
Now, there may be times that I VEHEMENTLY disagree with them and yes even argue with them, but NEVER will I let our disagreements turn into reasons to question if we should fellowship or not.
Ill take you as you are and I will not force what I think an Apostolic should be. The problem I have is that the "other" guys refuse to celebrate my triumphs, my revivals and my walk with God, which FORCES them to take on what I consider to be a Pharisaical Spirit. THAT I cannot stomach!
I have had my fill of TV or no TV, trimmed hair or no trimmed hair, light makeup or no makeup....The bottom line is this...are you ready...this is deep......

'Beloved, let us love one another for love is of God and every one that loveth is born of God and knoweth God...But he that loveth not knoweth not God for God is Love"

The greatest commandment was simply.....LOVE ONE ANOTHER!

Not change one another...love them!
If you are Mod. LIB, con or UC....there is room for all of us...we are the church.....WE...US.....think about we DO need each other!
I do humbly ask that if any of you were hurt, offended or surprised by my post yesterday, that you find it in your heart to extend grace and forgiveness to me.
I don't EVER want to see....the church become cookie cutter Christians.
I LOVE our diversity......

I respect each of you.......and yes would help ANYBODY on here that really needed me...thats what a family does.....I celebrate with you and cry with you and laugh with you.
One of the best friends I have in this world is much more conservative than I, and yes we have some knock down drag outs...BUT he is my friend...and we have one common bond....THE BLOOD!!!!!
Period and checkmate to the devil that would love to divide the church!

Love yall....really I do..
I would ask that we ALL strive for "peace with all men, and holiness"....we too often forget the first part of that verse.

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I appreciate this post, and really yes we are to LOVE one another, and really when I think about this it brings conviction because I fail so often at this......but I am striving to do better and love those that may have far different beliefs then me and not judge but pray and let God be the Judge. Thanks for reminding me about what it is all about "Love one another"
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Old 06-30-2007, 03:41 PM
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I read what you wrote to him the other day and I read what you've written here. Honestly, I think what you wrote the other day is the real you and not what you are showing us today. You did what you always do, you went way overboard in going off on someone. Sorry, but I am not buying what you are selling today.
Honestly when I read your post the first thing that came to my mind is "that's the pot calling the kettle black"
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Old 06-30-2007, 04:26 PM
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what a sad thread
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what a sad thread
Ditto.. Although I haven't read much of it...

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Most of time folks forget to "weigh their words"....

They can be a heavy burden to carry sometimes...
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