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Old 07-06-2007, 10:34 AM
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I absolutely DO look at the person who is asking for my money. If I don't trust them, they don't get a dime.

I have many times sown an "uncommon" seed. If I believe in the ministry or person then I give. I give from my heart and out of a need.

If fact, I have given to New Destiny because I believe in it and you! Have I been blessed because of giving to ND? I'm sure I have! I'm just blessed knowing I helped some kids. I just don't try to keep track of a return on investment.
I have never been manipilated by a TV preacher, I am just saying that giving an uncommmon seed has worked in my life.
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Old 07-06-2007, 10:36 AM
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I am saying giving an uncommon seed works, it has worked in my life.
"Giving to receive" is not giving. It's manipulation. "I'm giving, God, so I expect something back!"

No... that does not work. That's giving for the wrong reason...


Giving simply to give is the right way... give simply because there's a need and you want to help fill it. No expectation of personal return on your 'investment'.
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Old 07-06-2007, 10:37 AM
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I have never been manipilated by a TV preacher, I am just saying that giving an uncommmon seed has worked in my life.
I haven't either, but there are untold thousands, and maybe millions who have been manipulated and stolen from!!!!


I believe in liberal (uncommon) giving and God has NEVER failed to bless my family and take care of us in our liberality.
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Old 07-06-2007, 10:59 AM
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I hope this thread gives the OTHER thread that spawned it an important perspective to be considered.

A person who is generally accepted as seeking to move in God's gifting of a word of prophesy, who, when praying in preparation for receiving an offering, is inspired to evoke the phraseology of "uncommon seed for an uncommon harvest" is unmistakeably identifying with the teaching of Murdock and Parsley.
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Old 07-06-2007, 11:49 AM
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Sounds like a ploy to get you to give more money. That is what it has been every time I heard a sermon attached to those words.

1. You can't buy the blessings of God.

2. God requires tithes and offerings. Tithes are 10% and an offering is between you and what God instructs to you. If someone is saying something else, most times I turn them off. People are all about trying to get you to fill their pockets. I have fallen prey to this in my early years of salvation and don't plan on doing it again.
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Old 07-06-2007, 12:06 PM
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I hope this thread gives the OTHER thread that spawned it an important perspective to be considered.

A person who is generally accepted as seeking to move in God's gifting of a word of prophesy, who, when praying in preparation for receiving an offering, is inspired to evoke the phraseology of "uncommon seed for an uncommon harvest" is unmistakeably identifying with the teaching of Murdock and Parsley.
Did not know this was prior to the offering ... makes one ponder.
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Old 07-06-2007, 12:18 PM
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I hope this thread gives the OTHER thread that spawned it an important perspective to be considered.

A person who is generally accepted as seeking to move in God's gifting of a word of prophesy, who, when praying in preparation for receiving an offering, is inspired to evoke the phraseology of "uncommon seed for an uncommon harvest" is unmistakeably identifying with the teaching of Murdock and Parsley.
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Did not know this was prior to the offering ... makes one ponder.

Pardon me, but I pointed out this very thing in the opening posts of that thread. This is typical Charismatic lingo. We do not give to be blessed, although we will be. We give because we are blessed, and because it is our reasonable service. This includes all aspects of giving - not just money.
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Old 07-06-2007, 12:22 PM
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Pardon me, but I pointed out this very thing in the opening posts of that thread. This is typical Charismatic lingo. We do not give to be blessed, although we will be. We give because we are blessed, and because it is our reasonable service. This includes all aspects of giving - not just money.
I agree with the spirit of this thread ... just disagree on a finer point ... not all Charismatics are supporters of the prosperity doctrine ... just as not are all Apostolics.
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Old 07-06-2007, 12:27 PM
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I agree with the spirit of this thread ... just disagree on a finer point ... not all Charismatics are supporters of the prosperity doctrine ... just as not are all Apostolics.
Agreed. But this is a damnable doctrine. It motivates saints to give out of selfishness instead of love. It is investment theology. This is not about investment, it is about reward.
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Old 07-06-2007, 12:34 PM
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Agreed. But this is a damnable doctrine. It motivates saints to give out of selfishness instead of love. It is investment theology. This is not about investment, it is about reward.
Amen.
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