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Old 02-24-2007, 09:27 PM
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I'm going to go out on a limb here and state that it will probably "shake out" that the PCI'ers will have less disagreement than the PAJC'ers.
This statement has caught my attention and got me thinking. I'm not sure if I agree or not.

Want to explain what you mean here bro? How and why would there be less disagreement? Just want to hear your thinking on this.
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Old 02-24-2007, 09:51 PM
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I would venture to guess that on AFF folks with "PCI Beliefs" concerning salvation differ as much as the Oneness understanding differs from Apostolic to Apostolic. I think it would be interesting to see if that is a correct surmising. So would those of you that are what we call PCI in doctrine please explain where you stand in regards to salvation.
Hey Chuck ... I see consensus on this thread among the PCIers... Thou art not a prophet ....

now the PAJCers ... different story all together ... they agree on Acts 2:38 as THE MESSAGE ...but the interpretations abound ....
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Old 02-24-2007, 10:02 PM
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okay...

My thoughts..

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John 3:3-5
"...Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?

Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God."
PCI believes that you are born again at repentance, is that correct?
I always thought this passage of scripture taught that being "born again" is one and the same as being born of water and of the Spirit (baptism and infilling of the Holy Ghost).
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Old 02-25-2007, 11:27 AM
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PCI believes that you are born again at repentance, is that correct?
I always thought this passage of scripture taught that being "born again" is one and the same as being born of water and of the Spirit (baptism and infilling of the Holy Ghost).
Any takers on Berk's question???
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This statement has caught my attention and got me thinking. I'm not sure if I agree or not.

Want to explain what you mean here bro? How and why would there be less disagreement? Just want to hear your thinking on this.
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Hey Chuck ... I see consensus on this thread among the PCIers... Thou art not a prophet ....

now the PAJCers ... different story all together ... they agree on Acts 2:38 as THE MESSAGE ...but the interpretations abound ....
DA's post above pretty much explains what I meant. Some PAJC'ers or more adamant than others.............then you have the "Epleys."
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Old 02-25-2007, 01:30 PM
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Who are the officials aand where is the headquarters???????????? And who are the members????????????????

Number one they wouldn't let most of you guys have a license back then for what you preach and believe.
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Old 02-25-2007, 01:34 PM
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Old 02-25-2007, 01:38 PM
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Mr. Right I am completely and totallly RIGHT on this as if I was from RIGHTSVILLE!!!!!!!!

I am also RIGHT saying they are WRONG!!!!!!!!
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Old 02-25-2007, 08:33 PM
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PCI believes that you are born again at repentance, is that correct?
I always thought this passage of scripture taught that being "born again" is one and the same as being born of water and of the Spirit (baptism and infilling of the Holy Ghost).
You must be born of the water and the Spirit. Born of the water is natural physical birth; born of the Spirit is when you are born into the kingdom of God (redeemed).
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Old 02-25-2007, 08:37 PM
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You must be born of the water and the Spirit. Born of the water is natural physical birth; born of the Spirit is when you are born into the kingdom of God (redeemed).
if born of water is the natural physical birth, then what was the point of mentioning it??
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