Why is Elder Epley silent on the fact that the tithe in the Old Testament is not the same as money and that they are two distinct entities which both existed at the time....I dont expect a response on this one....so you too, go your merry way.
oh come on Roc, that is a boondoggle if ever i saw one!
the tithe in the OT was based on economic principles that applied!
5 thousand years ago, much of the economic activitiy was purely goods and services exchanged without money being involved. Many people lived and died having never held any kind of actual money in their hands.
Today things are exactly the opposite and you know it.
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Well, their economy was different than ours. Ours is based on greenbacks. Everything is traded for money now. It wasn't like that back then. That is why I have never bought into this argument that because the tithe wasn't money back then that it shouldn't be money now.
The very book that lays out the tithing law speaks of usury.
Money was an integral part of their society.
In 4000 years of recorded history in the word of God there is not one mention that ties the tithe to money.
As a matter of fact the times that the tithe is allowed to be converted to money for ease of transport there is a 20% fee for doing so.
You've got this mixed up, bro....greenbacks existed back then (i.e. in the form of metals, silver, gold, etc.)...and a closer look into the Bible reveals that in OT times, not all had occupations related to farming...to infer that bartering was the only form of commerce in the Bible is simpy not supported.
Firstly, goods and services were not always purchased via bartering...secondly, there are many occupations in the OT unrelated to farming...thirdly, money was used quite often in OT times to pay wages as well as taxes. The main unit of currency in the OT times is the shekel. Scripture supporting money existed:
Genesis 23:15-16 "Listen to me, my lord; the land is worth four hundred shekels of silver, but what is that between me and you? Bury your dead." Abraham agreed to Ephron's terms and weighed out for him the price he had named in the hearing of the Hittites: four hundred shekels of silver, according to the weight current among the merchants."
You've got this mixed up, bro....greenbacks existed back then (i.e. in the form of metals, silver, gold, etc.)...and a closer look into the Bible reveals that in OT times, not all had occupations related to farming...to infer that bartering was the only form of commerce in the Bible is simpy not supported.
Firstly, goods and services were not always purchased via bartering...secondly, there are many occupations in the OT unrelated to farming...thirdly, money was used quite often in OT times to pay wages as well as taxes. The main unit of currency in the OT times is the shekel. Scripture supporting money existed:
Genesis 23:15-16 "Listen to me, my lord; the land is worth four hundred shekels of silver, but what is that between me and you? Bury your dead." Abraham agreed to Ephron's terms and weighed out for him the price he had named in the hearing of the Hittites: four hundred shekels of silver, according to the weight current among the merchants."
I didn't say they didn't have money back then. I said their economy wasn't based on money. Just like our economy is based on money today, but there are still people that trade for the things they need.
Rico that is the ignorance of these guys that is why it is a waste of time to discuss with them. They may be able to read a balance sheet but reading the Bible seems to be a problem. I have been over this issue on this same matter I am tired of it.
It reminds me years ago a man came by where I was pastoring in Kentucky he said pastor I think we should do as the early church. I said how is that? He said everyone sell everything they have and divide it. I said fine with me. He looked shocked he said you think that would be alright. I said sure. What are you gonna sell? He said I don't have anything to sell. I said well I guess we will have to wait until you have something to sell to do it.
He left confused.
LOL...
That was wisdom, Elder.
Bet that dude didn't sleep at all that night. Had eyes open as big as saucers all night long. He probably kept saying to himself over and over again, "I can't believe that preacher said that to ME!"
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Originally Posted by Ferd
oh come on Roc, that is a boondoggle if ever i saw one!
the tithe in the OT was based on economic principles that applied!
5 thousand years ago, much of the economic activitiy was purely goods and services exchanged without money being involved. Many people lived and died having never held any kind of actual money in their hands.
Today things are exactly the opposite and you know it.
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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth
The very book that lays out the tithing law speaks of usury.
Money was an integral part of their society.
In 4000 years of recorded history in the word of God there is not one mention that ties the tithe to money.
As a matter of fact the times that the tithe is allowed to be converted to money for ease of transport there is a 20% fee for doing so.
to add to that comment regarding ease of transport....they would exchange it again for livestock and grains when they reached their destination...then they would eat unto the Lord....
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