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07-16-2007, 11:32 PM
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Smiles everyone...Smiles!!
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
The mode offered by Sherri, after quoting Matthew 28, God's breath inspired Word, emphatically states that this verse is fulfilled in Acts 2 ... a mainstay of Oneness doctrine
yet because the preliminary remarks before this Jesus name baptism contains the 3 dreaded titles of God in sequence ... it is discounted as blasphemous.
Its almost hilarious to hear ministers of the Word, and the protectors of Truth, react in such a manner about the same message they preach ...
can't y'all realize that this is a Jesus name baptism? or
does your vitriole towards your trinitarian brethren or anything trinitarian sounding destroy the synapes leading to your brain and cloud your better judgment?
Does this mode ... buckle your brick wall theology?
Does this phraseology as stated and preached by you in the same manner ... make you a compromiser?
Does the mention of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost, in that order, give you the heeby jeebys and make you writhe in pain?
Let go and let God ... |
Honestly Dan,
Was Jesus' command to go and repeat the command, or to go and baptize in the NAME?
Again, why would this need to be added unless someone didn't have a full understanding of who the NAME of the F, S, & HG is?
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07-16-2007, 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Sherri
Bump for Boom/Steadfast!
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Just getting in, Miss Sherri! I understood your clarification on the other thread but can see why you wanted to clarify it over here.
I can't say that I would do it exactly that way but it does appear that you are trying to be 'in the Name of Jesus'. The key difference, as you might well imagine, is that I do believe it to be a salvational issue if they aren't baptized in Jesus Name.
Blessings.. and I appreciate your desire to clarify yourself on THAT issue for sure! I would do the same.
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07-16-2007, 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Steadfast
Just getting in, Miss Sherri! I understood your clarification on the other thread but can see why you wanted to clarify it over here.
I can't say that I would do it exactly that way but it does appear to be 'in the Name of Jesus'. The key difference, as you might well imagine, is that I do believe it to be a salvational issue if they aren't baptized in Jesus Name.
Blessings.. and I appreciate your desire to clarify yourself on THAT issue for sure! I would do the same.
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Bro. Steadfast...are you sure you read the other thread...me thinks you might take it back.... 
Start on say page 9
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07-16-2007, 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by NLYP
Bro. Steadfast...are you sure you read the other thread...me thinks you might take it back....
Start on say page 9 |
Again, I wouldn't do it that way and can well see how it appears 'compromised' in a sense. I simply don't see the need to add all that other stuff...
But I still appreciate her attempt to clarify herself.
As for the rest of it? I already stated emphatically that I DO believe the baptism and mode of baptism are salvational.
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07-17-2007, 12:11 AM
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crakjak
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
So now there is a revelation not to quote scripture????  |
Don't you know that Matt. 28:19 is a trinity scripture and true apostolics do not use any trinity scriptures.
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07-17-2007, 07:03 AM
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the ultracon
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Originally Posted by Sherri
Well, in case you didn't notice, there were three different wordings in those four scriptures. What do you do with that????  |
Egg-zactly!! Not to mention that the early Jewish apostles (according to most early church history scholars) baptized their candidates after the fassion of the Jewish Mikveh that they were acCUSTOMED too.
Go read and learn about that. Then be careful when you claim WE baptize the SAME way the early church did.
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07-17-2007, 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by stmatthew
Honestly Dan,
Was Jesus' command to go and repeat the command, or to go and baptize in the NAME?
Again, why would this need to be added unless someone didn't have a full understanding of who the NAME of the F, S, & HG is?
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.......and a lot of people really don't have a full understanding of who the NAME of the F< S< AND HG is.
I don't believe like Sherri and Eddie......I believe baptism is a MUST. And I don't know if they are trying to appease everyone. But I see nothing wrong with the words they say prior to baptism. We need to use the words of Jesus!
Actually, you have a golden opportunity to preach a little one God message in the baptismal tank! And a visual aid also.........
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07-17-2007, 08:03 AM
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Not riding the train
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Originally Posted by Sarah
.......and a lot of people really don't have a full understanding of who the NAME of the F< S< AND HG is.
I don't believe like Sherri and Eddie......I believe baptism is a MUST. And I don't know if they are trying to appease everyone. But I see nothing wrong with the words they say prior to baptism. We need to use the words of Jesus!
Actually, you have a golden opportunity to preach a little one God message in the baptismal tank! And a visual aid also.........
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I totally agree with this post! - Baptism is a must
- It is a little One God message being they don't say, I baptize you in the name of FS&H.
I don't agree that it is NOT salvational. It's the crux of the Gospel message!
That sounds the same as people saying, "You don't have to speak in tongues."
The very people that do speak in tongues say that.  
Why baptize at all if it isn't salvational?
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07-17-2007, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Sarah
.......and a lot of people really don't have a full understanding of who the NAME of the F< S< AND HG is.
I don't believe like Sherri and Eddie......I believe baptism is a MUST. And I don't know if they are trying to appease everyone. But I see nothing wrong with the words they say prior to baptism. We need to use the words of Jesus!
Actually, you have a golden opportunity to preach a little one God message in the baptismal tank! And a visual aid also.........
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I agree, Sarah ... to me, as you, they are preaching a Oneness message prior to the baptism emphasizing that Matthew 28 is fulfilled in Acts 2 ... and officiating a baptism in the name of Jesus .....
For the record, Sherri and Eddie believe baptism is a must ...
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07-17-2007, 08:08 AM
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Not riding the train
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
I agree, Sarah ... to me, as you, they are preaching a Oneness message prior to the baptism emphasizing that Matthew 28 is fulfilled in Acts 2 ... and officiating a baptism in the name of Jesus .....
For the record, Sherri and Eddie believe baptism is a must ... |
How can you say it is a "must", but say it is not "salvational"? Sorry, I can't quite get that.
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