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Old 07-17-2007, 09:08 AM
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Haven't read all the thread but just had to ask the question. Why bother with baptism if one is saved at repentance?
Why love your neighbor if we are saved after we finally speak in tongues???

Why give offerings if we are justified according to some after baptism???
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I don't believe they are hoops ... some preach it as such ....
Well, sweet Daniel. I haven't heard anyone preach it as hoops in the last 22 years, that I can think of.

I just heard, "touch not thine anointed" over and over and over and over


and over and over and over....


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Old 07-17-2007, 09:11 AM
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Felicity, I don't believe we're regenerated until we've obeyed the gospel.....which is the death, (repentance), baptism, (burial) and ressurection of Jesus Christ (receiving the Holy ghost). We can believe, and even feel the presence of God, until the cows come home. But until we've acted...as in the book of Acts.....we're not saved.

God did his part on the cross. Why do some of us balk and want to stay at the 'cross'?

That was NEVER God's plan........
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Old 07-17-2007, 09:14 AM
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Pressing On do you believe your sins are forgiven at repentance but not really washed away until you are baptized????
I believe that my sins are remitted at repentance and that baptize is an answer of a good conscience. It's a must.

I Peter 3:21 "The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:..."
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Old 07-17-2007, 09:16 AM
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I believe that my sins are remitted at repentance and that baptize is an answer of a good conscience. It's a must.

I Peter 3:21 "The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:..."
Then you are a PCIer at heart.
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Then you are a PCIer at heart.
I believe you have to speak in tongues as evidence of receiving the Holy Ghost.

Do I still qualify?
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Old 07-17-2007, 09:18 AM
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When is the blood of Jesus applied??? Tough question .... but I'd love to hear your thoughts on it?
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Old 07-17-2007, 09:19 AM
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I will say this once and then I'm done with this discussion...........we tell everyone who comes to the Lord that they need to be baptized. We always baptize them in Jesus' name and we always will. I don't think it saves them, but they do it in obedience because they are saved.

All others who are baptized in the titles, but they know that they did it out of a relationship with Jesus Christ and turning their lives over to Him.....I sure would not ever say they are lost.

Many of you will be very surprised to see who is in heaven spending an eternity with Jesus!!
Sherri,
I don't understand this. How can it not save them when it is a commandment of the NT Gospel message? How can you be saved if you don't obey the Gospel? If they aren't saved by it, why even do it?
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I believe you have to speak in tongues as evidence of receiving the Holy Ghost.

Do I still qualify?
I believe that speaking in tongues is evidence of the baptism of the Holy Ghost too ... the real question does it qualify you to finally being saved???
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