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Old 07-17-2007, 03:55 PM
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Praxeas, please define modesty.

I think most Oneness Pentecostals view modesty as abstinence. While this may be true with some issues, I don't believe it applies to all of them. Usually abstinence from movies, television, and a host of other issues is justified with the logic "I would rather be safe than sorry".

That sort of logic is fine as long as it is not mandated as a prerequisite for salvation.

My question is this: Is modesty abstinence, moderation or something else entirely?
Well that is really MY question. What is modesty? How can we attack someone elses idea of modesty if we don't have some rule for which we define it?

Modesty, as pertains to this thread, is really about dress, not going to the movies

But here are some dictionary defs
–noun, plural -ties. 1.the quality of being modest; freedom from vanity, boastfulness, etc. 2.regard for decency of behavior, speech, dress, etc. 3.simplicity; moderation.

modesty
1531, "freedom from exaggeration, self-control," from M.Fr. modestie, from L. modestia "moderation," from modestus "moderate, keeping measure, sober," from modus "measure, manner" (see mode (1)). Meaning "having a moderate opinion of oneself" is from 1553. Modest (adj.) is first recorded 1565.

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modesty

noun
1. freedom from vanity or conceit [ant: immodesty]
2. formality and propriety of manner

Modest
mod·est (mŏd'ĭst) Pronunciation Key
adj.

1. Having or showing a moderate estimation of one's own talents, abilities, and value.
2. Having or proceeding from a disinclination to call attention to oneself; retiring or diffident. See Synonyms at shy1.
3. Observing conventional proprieties in speech, behavior, or dress.
4. Free from showiness or ostentation; unpretentious. See Synonyms at plain.
5. Moderate or limited in size, quantity, or range; not extreme: a modest price; a newspaper with a modest circulation.
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