The Current PAJC Beliefs

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by Felicity

PP........

Honestly, I appreciate you but I'm not reading where anyone is saying anything is necessarily unnecessary. And if they ARE making that kind of remark .... necessary for what? Unnecessary for what?

Let's keep a clear head here. LOL!

So, lets recap shall we? Five threads about the issue in the last few days?
All in opposition to it. This is no longer a discussion, it is a lecture by those against the necessity of water and Holy Ghost baptism.

[Felicity]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Now Felicity that is not fair you yourself have lamented with CC! & Pianoman about the lack of emphasis on baptism and the HGB. And yes they do baptize in Jesus Name.

I've never heard about a lack of emphasis on baptism. I have heard what's been said about his position and the way he deals with people receiving the Holy Ghost and I don't agree with that at all!

No way would I ever attend a church where the Holy Ghost is relegated and pushed off into a back room. No way!

But as far as I know they still baptize in Jesus name and baptize people regularly.

I'm being fair Bro. Epley.

[J-Roc]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

So, lets recap shall we? Five threads about the issue in the last few days?
All in opposition to it. This is no longer a discussion, it is a lecture by those against the necessity of water and Holy Ghost baptism.

more warped interpretation.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Felicity

I've never heard about a lack of emphasis on baptism. I have heard what's been said about his position and the way he deals with people receiving the Holy Ghost and I don't agree with that at all!

No way would I ever attend a church where the Holy Ghost is relegated and pushed off into a back room. No way!

But as far as I know they still baptize in Jesus name and baptize people regularly.

I'm being fair Bro. Epley.

If you don't remember then I don't impugn you I forget myself but I am getting older what is your excuse??

[Felicity]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

So, lets recap shall we? Five threads about the issue in the last few days?
All in opposition to it. This is no longer a discussion, it is a lecture by those against the necessity of water and Holy Ghost baptism.

Look ...... ....... I don't know most of these other posters. I'm not aligning myself with anybody nor am I on any kind of team or anything like that.

I'm just stating my position and trying to bring some balance and fairness to all of this discussion and doing my best to represent a large segment of Oneness Pentecostalism.

This kind of discussion has been taking place since I first got involved in these OP forums. It comes up occasionally and I think it's important discussion. Very important!

I've learned from it and I know others have as well. I haven't changed my doctrinal belief although my own study has made me believe even stronger about the absolute necessity of water baptism. But I don't believe it the way some here do.

I agree with some of what you all say. I don't have to discount a person or everything they say to maintain and defend what I believe.

[Felicity]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

If you don't remember then I don't impugn you I forget myself but I am getting older what is your excuse??

Hey, I'm getting there too. You're probably not much older than I am. Want to tell me how old you are?

I honestly don't remember PM or CC saying that there is less emphasis on baptism. Probably Bro. Hardwick doesn't believe it's necessary for salvation. If that's the case then he and I differ.

I don't read every post or thread and don't have memory recall like some of you do. I have a tendency to skim a lot, get the gist of what's said and miss some of the details. Bad me!

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by J-Roc

more warped interpretation.

Hey J, post something with substance, okay?

Right now I picture you as a parrot on Daniel's shoulder -echoing everything he says. Care to share some original thoughts on the subject?

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Felicity

Hey, I'm getting there too. You're probably not much older than I am. Want to tell me how old you are?

I honestly don't remember PM or CC saying that there is less emphasis on baptism. Probably Bro. Hardwick doesn't believe it's necessary for salvation. If that's the case then he and I differ.

I don't read every post or thread and don't have memory recall like some of you do. I have a tendency to skim a lot, get the gist of what's said and miss some of the details. Bad me!

They said it was NEVER mentioned from the pulpit only taught in private classes if someone asked for them and baptism in Jesus Name was not necessary to be a member or leader in Christ Church.

[Felicity]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

They said it was NEVER mentioned from the pulpit only taught in private classes if someone asked for them and baptism in Jesus Name was not necessary to be a member or leader in Christ Church.

Okay. Well if that's the case I'm sorry to hear it.

I know there are those who go down this path. It saddens me and never ever would I attend a church like that. No thank you very much.

[J-Roc]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Hey J, post something with substance, okay?

Right now I picture you as a parrot on Daniel's shoulder -echoing everything he says. Care to share some original thoughts on the subject?

As much as you continue with your warped interpretation repeatedly saying that people in this forum are claiming baptism is unnecessary...I'll continue exposing that warped thinking.

Maybe if you post something substantive, it may move me to do likewise...