It amazes me that Christians so often attempt to justify or rationalize things that do not please God. When we reason with our natural, carnal mind, it often doesn't lead us to make spiritually sound decisions. Simply put, the carnal mind is hostile towards God and the things of God. If God says it, Christians should be quick to obey it.
Facts:
- Witchcraft and sorcery do not please God. Those who practice this sin are committing an abomination before God. They will not inherit the kingdom of God. (Deut 18:9-14; Gal 5:19-21)
- Witchcraft is clearly a sin (1 Sam 15:23)
- Biblically, witchcraft and sorcery are evil and is are connected with darkness and deceit.
There is no redeeming value in witchcraft. Justifying Harry Potter by saying that watching "Bewitched," is carnal reasoning. When we delight in evil or those who practice what God refers to as an abomination, it becomes sin to us. God does not make a distinction between white and dark magic. He calls it abomination.
Also, it's interesting that biblically, witchcraft is often connected to those who caused their children to "pass through the fire."
God help us...
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first with Bewitched and Jeanie, these were not fantasy shows. They were lite comedy and clearly were not driving a witchcraft world view.
Wizard of Oz while clearly fantasy, the fight between good and evil showed that good wins.
Harry Potter, is both fantasy and never do you see clear victory for the good guys. in fact, as I understand it, there is no real line between good and evil. the view promotes witchcraft as an art and a faith, and blurs the line between good and evil...
Honestly I dont know that there is any more harm in a harry potter book than a Tom Clancy book when it comes to simply reading something. but I do think care is in order when you are considering the audence which is very young kids. Well balanced Parents who know their kids are the key.
I brought my son some Peretti books home from the library and after reading some in one, he refused to read them and slept with the light on because, as he said, he knew that demons and what was happening in the books could be real (because it was evil and good in the setting of Christians and demonic forces). I think for some kids...the HP books give kids what they feel is a safe setting in learning about good vs evil because they know it is something they will never partake in in reality or at the very least that they have been taught against it. But the Christian demon stories, that most would think are fine scared my son pretty badly.
I have heard of things being promoted that guide children into witchcraft and such, and those things I'm against, but my daughter doesn't care about that stuff.
Some of the quotes that Barb posted from the site are really no different than kids wanting to be Spiderman or Superman and want to fly and 'catch the bad guys'. My mom got rid of our TV after I kicked my cousin in the head acting like Wonder Woman. Then again, I was 6, and didn't understand the difference in reality and fantasy. Some of these kids being quoted apparently don't either. (And yes, I know this has nothing to do with your post, but I'm on dial up and not dealing well with it....LOL!)
It's okay.
Well everyone has their opinion. I'm not comfortable with the HP books and I think there is a reason why they were placed with all the new age occult/witchcraft stuff. Some of the other books placed in that display were actually dealing with and teaching spells that people can use (for real) and apparently the people/person making that window display felt there was a connection between the HP books and all the other junk.
I watched the first HP movie part of the way through and again just didn't feel comfortable with the way things were being presented and how it might affect the thinking of children living in the world we live in today.
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I brought my son some Peretti books home from the library and after reading some in one, he refused to read them and slept with the light on because, as he said, he knew that demons and what was happening in the books could be real (because it was evil and good in the setting of Christians and demonic forces). I think for some kids...the HP books give kids what they feel is a safe setting in learning about good vs evil because they know it is something they will never partake in in reality or at the very least that they have been taught against it. But the Christian demon stories, that most would think are fine scared my son pretty badly.
Scary that you think HP is a good way to teach the spiritual principles of good and evil. HP is what God refers to as abomination.
Why not our children learn from the words of God? You know, the whole Deut 6 thing?
This is where carnal reasoning gets us, folks....
__________________ For you, brethren, have been called to liberty; only do not use liberty as an opportunity for the flesh, but through love serve one another. For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this: "You shall love your neighbor as yourself." But if you bite and devour one another, beware lest you be consumed by one another! (Gal 5:13-15/ NKJV)
Scary that you think HP is a good way to teach the spiritual principles of good and evil. HP is what God referrs to as abomination.
Why not our children learn from the words of God? You know, the whole Deut 6 thing?
This is where carnal reasoning gets us, folks....
The point is......he knows that he has no plans to go out and cast a spell on someone. But the dynamics in the fictional books are what gives the book merit. I'm not saying it's for everyone and I am not promoting it. I am just saying that, as the Bible says "to the pure, all things are pure."
The point is......he knows that he has no plans to go out and cast a spell on someone. But the dynamics in the fictional books are what gives the book merit. I'm not saying it's for everyone and I am not promoting it. I am just saying that, as the Bible says "to the pure, all things are pure."
What an amazing distortion/perversion of scripture!
That is not at all what that scripture is referencing. What God calls abomination, is never pure.
Ever.
__________________ For you, brethren, have been called to liberty; only do not use liberty as an opportunity for the flesh, but through love serve one another. For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this: "You shall love your neighbor as yourself." But if you bite and devour one another, beware lest you be consumed by one another! (Gal 5:13-15/ NKJV)
HO, you REALLY see no difference in Spiderman and teaching children about divination?! There is a big difference in trying to catch the bad guys and wanting to put a hex on someone, IMHO.
I'm speaking about the movies only, and not the website or any other promotions.
When we were young, we wanted to be like someone else. It's a normal part of life. We emulate those we want to be like, regardless how real or fake they are.
I used to have red slippers that I would knock together three times in hopes that I would be whisked away to Kansas, wherever that was.......
It never happened. I wanted it to happen so bad.
I remember being about 6 yrs old and my mom telling me to clean my room. I went to my room and touched my nose, trying to tweak it like Tabitha on Bewitched. She cleaned her room by doing that. Again, it never worked for me. But I really wanted it to! (I still want it to......LOL!)
It's normal for children to want to emulate the 'greats' in their life. I'm not for promoting witchcraft, but I would find it hard to believe that there is a one of us on this forum who never said 'magic words' about something in the hopes that a miracle would happen! It's normal for children to do those things, just as it is for them to attempt to fly, hoping to be like Superman.
I am not for the promotion of witchcraft, and although my daughter is 13, if she were 7, I would NOT buy her potion and spell candy. M&M's are good enough...LOL!
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It amazes me that Christians so often attempt to justify or rationalize things that do not please God. When we reason with our natural, carnal mind, it often doesn't lead us to make spiritually sound decisions. Simply put, the carnal mind is hostile towards God and the things of God. If God says it, Christians should be quick to obey it.
Facts:
- Witchcraft and sorcery do not please God. Those who practice this sin are committing an abomination before God. They will not inherit the kingdom of God. (Deut 18:9-14; Gal 5:19-21)
- Witchcraft is clearly a sin (1 Sam 15:23)
- Biblically, witchcraft and sorcery are evil and is are connected with darkness and deceit.
There is no redeeming value in witchcraft. Justifying Harry Potter by saying that watching "Bewitched," is carnal reasoning. When we delight in evil or those who practice what God refers to as an abomination, it becomes sin to us. God does not make a distinction between white and dark magic. He calls it abomination.
Also, it's interesting that biblically, witchcraft is often connected to those who caused their children to "pass through the fire."
God help us...
Some people can read a book merely for literary content alone without being sucked into the 'spirit' of the book.
I know people who have done that with the Bible as well as HP books.
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