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07-26-2007, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by RandyWayne
This is where I disagree. I do feel that people will tend to give their coaches more loyalty then their boss, but this is wrong only insomuch that people should give their EMPLOYERS as much loyalty as they do their coaches.
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It is loyalty of a different nature, and with different objectives.
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"Then answered Amos, and said to Amaziah, I was no prophet, neither was I a prophet's son; but I was an herdman, and a gatherer of sycomore fruit:
And the LORD took me as I followed the flock, and the LORD said unto me, Go, prophesy unto my people Israel."
--Amos 7:14-15
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07-26-2007, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Amos
I have advised my children against joining the military.
As an American, I have tremendous respect and appreciation for our soldiers.
But as a citizen of the Kingdom of Heaven, I have a higher loyalty.
I am raising my children to also have that same loyalty.
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I'm sure this includes after-school clubs and activities?
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07-26-2007, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
I'm sure this includes after-school clubs and activities?
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Some clubs and activities are not as demanding and consuming as the military. All are considered on a case-by-case basis.
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"Then answered Amos, and said to Amaziah, I was no prophet, neither was I a prophet's son; but I was an herdman, and a gatherer of sycomore fruit:
And the LORD took me as I followed the flock, and the LORD said unto me, Go, prophesy unto my people Israel."
--Amos 7:14-15
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07-26-2007, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Amos
Did you serve in the military?
Many people appreciate America who did not want to serve in the military.
If there were the reinstitution of the draft, I would expect my children to go if they were called, as I would have.
But if the choice is theirs, I feel it is wiser as a Christian not to put yourself in that environment.
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No, I was too young for Viet Nam and to old for Desert Storm. I did register for the drift and would have served if called upon. While I could not have been a conscientious objector, I have no problem with those that are.
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07-26-2007, 01:08 PM
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Amos.. It seems to me thatyour thoughts have more to do with Church Attendance than living for God.. it seems..
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07-26-2007, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Amos
The culture of athletics is antithetical in many ways to the value system i want to teach my children.
Many coaches demand a degree of loyalty that I am not willing for my kids to give an unbeliever whose priorities are not in sync with ours.
Discipline, teamwork, etc. are good things for sure, but there are ways to teach them that don't carry the baggage that sports does.
Furthermore, I know far too many middle-aged men who have physical problems from their days in high school sports to want my kids involved, if for no other reason than that.
Sports takes an incredible amount of time and energy, and doesn't give much back.
It is a poor investment for my family.
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The portion of your quote that I bolded is a great point, and one that leads to many a spiritual shipwreck. It's important to follow godly principles.
Some of the greatest regrets in my life are present because I chose to submit to a man, a job, or a system whose values were less than ideal.
Be careful whose authority you submit to.
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07-26-2007, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by RevDWW
No, I was too young for Viet Nam and to old for Desert Storm. I did register for the drift and would have served if called upon. While I could not have been a conscientious objector, I have no problem with those that are.
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I also registered, and could not have been a CO either.
My advising my kids against military service has more to do with my feeling that:
1.The military isn't the best environment to send a young Apostolic into, away from parents, church, and every familiar godly influence.
2.When you are a member of the military, you are totally subject to their orders regarding where you live, etc. That is not the best situation for someone who wants to be free to obey God in those matters.
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"Then answered Amos, and said to Amaziah, I was no prophet, neither was I a prophet's son; but I was an herdman, and a gatherer of sycomore fruit:
And the LORD took me as I followed the flock, and the LORD said unto me, Go, prophesy unto my people Israel."
--Amos 7:14-15
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07-26-2007, 01:11 PM
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His Eminance, High Potatohead Potatotate
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I agree with PP and Amos concerning submission & authority..
My children have always played for Christian Leagues... and we have always had prayer before the games...
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07-26-2007, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by revrandy
Amos.. It seems to me thatyour thoughts have more to do with Church Attendance than living for God.. it seems..
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I thought it but ... chose not pursue it....
I wonder how many kids pull double duty ? School and Kingdom "work".
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07-26-2007, 01:12 PM
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His Eminance, High Potatohead Potatotate
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Originally Posted by Amos
I also registered, and could not have been a CO either.
My advising my kids against military service has more to do with my feeling that:
1.The military isn't the best environment to send a young Apostolic into, away from parents, church, and every familiar godly influence.
2.When you are a member of the military, you are totally subject to their orders regarding where you live, etc. That is not the best situation for someone who wants to be free to obey God in those matters.
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Amos.. What age are your kids.. if you don't mind..
My boys are 14 and 10
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