Buying a Car.

[revrandy]

Originally Posted by tamor

I agree, Randy. Alot of it is being at the right place at the right time. People hear of sweetheart deals all the time and say things like, "I never come across a deal like that." ..... Did they ask????

I kinda like the game sometimes.. other times I don't have the patience for it.. but it is fun...

[tamor]

Originally Posted by revrandy

I kinda like the game sometimes.. other times I don't have the patience for it.. but it is fun...

[BrotherEastman]

Originally Posted by CC1

You should have said you were dealing on a used car to start with. For all practical purposes a program car does not have a "sticker". You can look at what was it's sticker when it was new but it is used.

Now fourteen grand for a used Impala that listed new for $21,000 I can see as being within reason! Back in 2000 I paid about ten grand for a Taurus that listed for probably $18000 new. It was a one year old program car with about
12,000 miles on it.

I also paid $25,000 for a one year old 2004 Lincoln Town Car that listed for $42,000 new.

How many miles does this program Impala have on it?

6500

[BrotherEastman]

Originally Posted by CC1

Mr. Eastman Kodak failed to mention he was talking about an offer on a used program car. He mentioned a $21,000 sticker so we all assumed he meant a new car. To offer $14,000 for a new car with a sticker of $21,000 is unreasonable and not credible. There are offers that are unreasonable and that would be one.

The car hasn't been titled, but as I said before with 6500 miles on it, they shouldn't expect the full price. So, the car is new in that it had not been titled, but for them to expect me to take the depreciated value is a scam.

[myhaloisintheshop]

My husband is car salesman and like someone said before--nothing is moving right now. It is ridiculous!

One of the things that irritates my husband is when someone has not done research and places an unreasonable offer. He spends hours with someone when they want something for nothing and he has just wasted his time.

Not that your offer was unreasonable Bro Eastman...my husband is a Chevy salesman. I can see one selling for 14,000 easily.

[CC1]

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

The car hasn't been titled, but as I said before with 6500 miles on it, they shouldn't expect the full price. So, the car is new in that it had not been titled, but for them to expect me to take the depreciated value is a scam.

There is also a difference in whether a car is a "demo" or a "program car".

A demo has never been titled and has been used by dealership employees, relatives, or in a promotional way for the dealership (i.e. use donated to a college coach as a perk).

A program car is a car that has been titled and was either a rental car, company fleet car, or a car used by a rep of the car manufacturer.

When buying a used car there are several services online where for a fee you can check the VIN of a car to see who it was titled to and if there are any known accidents with it, etc. The only downside is that the lemon law info, accident info, etc is limited to only around 16 states that participate so you still could buy a lemon. I liked that it let me see who my program car had been titled to before so I could avoid getting a rental car. I preferred a fleet car that more likely would have had just one driver.

Back to the demo vs. program car. A demo typically would not get as big a discount as a program car because technically it is not used as it was never titled.

I will tell you that in 95% of the cases I could sell a brand new car with no miles on it as cheaply as a demo when I was a new car sales manager. Typically there are no additional factory incentives for a dealer selling a demo.

[BrotherEastman]

Originally Posted by CC1

There is also a difference in whether a car is a "demo" or a "program car".

A demo has never been titled and has been used by dealership employees, relatives, or in a promotional way for the dealership (i.e. use donated to a college coach as a perk).

A program car is a car that has been titled and was either a rental car, company fleet car, or a car used by a rep of the car manufacturer.

When buying a used car there are several services online where for a fee you can check the VIN of a car to see who it was titled to and if there are any known accidents with it, etc. The only downside is that the lemon law info, accident info, etc is limited to only around 16 states that participate so you still could buy a lemon. I liked that it let me see who my program car had been titled to before so I could avoid getting a rental car. I preferred a fleet car that more likely would have had just one driver.

Back to the demo vs. program car. A demo typically would not get as big a discount as a program car because technically it is not used as it was never titled.

I will tell you that in 95% of the cases I could sell a brand new car with no miles on it as cheaply as a demo when I was a new car sales manager. Typically there are no additional factory incentives for a dealer selling a demo.

Okay, now that I know you'll be nice, let me ask you another question (being that you are a former dealer), with the market being more a buyers market these days, and knowing that your cars must be sold, why would you not want to deal with my offer? (remember, I have cash)

[BrotherEastman]

BTW, sorry about the mis-understanding between "program" and "demo".

[BrotherEastman]

Originally Posted by myhaloisintheshop

My husband is car salesman and like someone said before--nothing is moving right now. It is ridiculous!

One of the things that irritates my husband is when someone has not done research and places an unreasonable offer. He spends hours with someone when they want something for nothing and he has just wasted his time.

Not that your offer was unreasonable Bro Eastman...my husband is a Chevy salesman. I can see one selling for 14,000 easily.

Where does he work? LOL!

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

Where does he work? LOL!

Almost worth a plane ticket and long drive home at that rate!

(where is that car smiley)