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Old 08-02-2007, 08:50 AM
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Is there scripture to support this?

"A great door and effectual is opened unto tme, and there are many adversaries."

"We wrestle not against flesh and blood..."

"...I have fought with beasts at Ephesus..."
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Is there scripture to support this?
You haven't experienced this?
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Is there scripture to support this?
Check out Ephesians.
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Check out Ephesians.
Thats a whole book.....

Could you bring it down to chapter & verse?
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Is there scripture to support this?
Jesus in the wilderness.
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Meaning (in part) ....

**the higher level we move into spiritually the greater spiritual opposition we will encounter**
a few weeks ago, bees/wasps built a nest on a nail outside of my apartment near my outdoor storage....

when i carefully walked around it.... the wasps didnt bother me....

when i got kinda close to the nest.... a few wasps flew around before landing again....

when i whacked it with a broom.... all the wasps flew around and one or two almost "got me"

when i sprayed it with RAID.... all the wasps flew around for 2 or 3 seconds before dropping to the ground....

i think this simple illustration is what Southern Belle was talking about....

the closer to meddling with Satan's business you get, the more he gets stirred up....
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a few weeks ago, bees/wasps built a nest on a nail outside of my apartment near my outdoor storage....

when i carefully walked around it.... the wasps didnt bother me....

when i got kinda close to the nest.... a few wasps flew around before landing again....

when i whacked it with a broom.... all the wasps flew around and one or two almost "got me"

when i sprayed it with RAID.... all the wasps flew around for 2 or 3 seconds before dropping to the ground....

i think this simple illustration is what Southern Belle was talking about....

the closer to meddling with Satan's business you get, the more he gets stirred up....
The other day I used a rope to pull my car out of the mud....

The rope was one rope but it was made up of 3 strands...

With just one of the strands the rope wouldn't have been strong enough...

But with all 3 strands it was able to pull me out...

I think this simple illustration is what the trinitarians are talking about.

Illustrations are useful to illustrate whatever anyone desires to illustrate no matter how much truth is or is not present.

This is why scripture was requested.

(Btw... I didn't really get stuck in the mud and need a rope to get my car out.)
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Old 08-02-2007, 09:40 AM
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Illustrations are useful to illustrate whatever anyone desires to illustrate no matter how much truth is or is not present.

This is why scripture was requested.

(Btw... I didn't really get stuck in the mud and need a rope to get my car out.)
very true.... i see your post now....
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I understand you're asking for scripture. I can't offer you a specific scripture at the moment that is a solid proof of what I said earlier. I just know through experience it's true. And I believe that Scripture bears witness to the fact of demonic/devilish attack and oppression when we're involved in spiritual warfare (which is constant and ongoing) and where oppression or bondage is great.

I also added (in part) when I offered earlier explanation of the *bigger level - bigger devil* comment. I don't have time now to go into it further and I find that whenever you start talking about this topic there is some cynicism. Some of us know of what I speak.
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Acts 16:16 And it came to pass, as we went to prayer, a certain damsel possessed with a spirit of divination met us, which brought her masters much gain by soothsaying:
Acts 16:17 The same followed Paul and us, and cried, saying, These men are the servants of the most high God, which shew unto us the way of salvation.

D4T.... maybe Acts 16:16-17 when a demon-possessed person began to heckle them as they were trying to preach in the city....

2 Corinthians 12:7 And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure.

Paul experienced a "messenger of Satan".... for some reason i seem to recall a preacher mentioning this could have been Alexander (2 Timothy 4:14).... can't say I've looked into this enough to even speculate....

or when Shadrach, Mishael, Azariah were pointed out and thrown in the furnace for not bowing down to an idol (Daniel 3)

maybe when Daniel was ratted out to the king for praying daily (Daniel 6)

no rock-solid verse or passage that describes "Satan fighting us harder if we are being more spiritual" jumped to my mind.... maybe others can jump in and post better examples....
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