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Old 08-18-2007, 02:19 PM
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Old 08-18-2007, 02:33 PM
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L&F that's a scary avatar.
What? You don't like my blue eyes? Well, here's what I think of your opinion....



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Old 08-18-2007, 02:35 PM
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Hey RevDWW that's a beautiful picture of you and your wife.
Thank you brother. And you have a lovely family as well!!!
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Old 08-18-2007, 02:43 PM
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Can you say Psychobabble?
You think the words implied and claimed are psychobabble? HAHAHA....oh man this is like taking candy from children.
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Old 08-18-2007, 02:48 PM
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Praxeas again you are wrong. Praxeas the New Testament does not teach retaliation with deadly force.
Once again EB ignores what other people say and inserts his own version of what they said, classic strawman argument. EB doesn't want to deal with reality or just can't refute what others are saying so he has to invent the other persons argument into a more easier argument, thus the strawmen. Strawmen are always easier to defeat.

Nobody here, NOBODY, has ever argued retaliation was ok. Nobody argued vengeance was ok. Nobody argued retribution was ok. Nobody argued rendering evil for evil was ok. None of those are self defense. You are fighting with a strawman EB, a dishonest false caricature of what the others here are arguing
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  3. Every sinner must repent of their sins.
  4. That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
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Old 08-18-2007, 02:50 PM
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They all agreed with me.

What are the "new word" doctrines?
HE doesn't know Brother. Him and EB just make this stuff up as they go along
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  4. That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
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Old 08-18-2007, 02:58 PM
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Brother, can I put you on record that you believe and teach that Peter was a 100% full of faith and a top flight prayer warrior prior to Pentecost? I await your reply.
I never said one thing about the quality of his faith or prayer. I said originally that based on what you were arguing about faith and prayer that Peter must not have had faith and they you replied "Peter DIDN'T pray or have faith" and I pointed out that was wrong. Then when I used examples to show he must have had faith, I never said how much faith or prayer he had before Pentecost. That was stuff you later added....Yet you took exception with my examples as though to oppose the notion of Peter having faith or praying.

I think there is enough scriptural evidence to show Peter and the apostles did have faith before Pentecost. You keep wanting to change this from did they have faith and pray to, how much faith did they have and how much did they pray, and that was never originally the issue.

So I am assuming you are agreeing with me now that Peter DID pray and have faith before Pentecost. The exact amount, as though it can really be quantified, is not known. We do know Jesus told Peter and the others they had little faith, yet heh also said that was enough to move mountains
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  3. Every sinner must repent of their sins.
  4. That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
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Old 08-18-2007, 02:59 PM
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Brother, can I put you on record that you believe and teach that Peter was a 100% full of faith and a top flight prayer warrior prior to Pentecost? I await your reply.
Benny,I never said one thing about the quality of his faith or prayer. I said originally that based on what you were arguing about faith and prayer that Peter must not have had faith and they you replied "Peter DIDN'T pray or have faith" and I pointed out that was wrong. Then when I used examples to show he must have had faith, I never said how much faith or prayer he had before Pentecost. That was stuff you later added....Yet you took exception with my examples as though to oppose the notion of Peter having faith or praying.

Benny,I think there is enough scriptural evidence to show Peter and the apostles did have faith before Pentecost. You keep wanting to change this from did they have faith and pray to, how much faith did they have and how much did they pray, and that was never originally the issue.

So, Benny, I am assuming you are agreeing with me now that Peter DID pray and have faith before Pentecost. The exact amount, as though it can really be quantified, is not known. We do know Jesus told Peter and the others they had little faith, yet he also said that was enough to move mountains
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  1. There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
  2. The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
  3. Every sinner must repent of their sins.
  4. That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
  5. That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
  6. The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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Old 08-18-2007, 03:00 PM
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HE doesn't know Brother. Him and EB just make this stuff up as they go along
Really? Did you see the thread I started this morning on this subject? Look for "NEW WORD?" thread.

Praxeas, you just getting farther and farther from the subject of this thread….
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Old 08-18-2007, 03:01 PM
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When do you specifically prove any of the above to me? the above is NOT a refutation, it's just an accusation. Prove me wrong or move to the main issue of the thread.
I quoted you twice.

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Praxaes you are fawning over a victory that's not yours. What you need to do is explain what you are saying about Peter using chapter and verse.
You believe Peter was a spiritual giant prior to Pentecost, then please explain how?
This is your usual MO it seems. I never said or implied Peter was a spiritual giant at any time before or after, you just keep changing and adding things forming that strawman argument of yours
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  3. Every sinner must repent of their sins.
  4. That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
  5. That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
  6. The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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