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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Hey did you see that? Now for pointing out they only allow this discussion to take place using the NT I am suddenly not interested in a biblical adult talk...
and if I don't post within an unspecified amount of time I am running away....thats funny.
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You know that is NOT why I said what I did.
Let me remind all here that God still requires honesty!
As far as me using the Old and New Testaments. Look at this....
God gave the Children of Israel 613 Torah Commandments. He commanded them to keep each one. But as time went on He explained His will for man with less wording, and yet it remained the same!
David had 11...
Psalms 15:2-5
(2) He that walketh uprightly, and worketh righteousness, and speaketh the truth in his heart.
(3) He that backbiteth not with his tongue, nor doeth evil to his neighbor, nor taketh up a reproach against his neighbor.
(4) In whose eyes a vile person is contemned; but he honoreth them that fear the LORD. He that sweareth to his own hurt, and changeth not.
(5) He that putteth not out his money to usury, nor taketh reward against the innocent. He that doeth these things shall never be moved.
Isaiah reduced them to 6...
Isaiah 33:15
(15) He that walketh righteously, and speaketh uprightly; he that despiseth the gain of oppressions, that shaketh his hands from holding of bribes, that stoppeth his ears from hearing of blood, and shutteth his eyes from seeing evil;
Habakkuk reduced it to 1...
Habakkuk 2:4
(4) Behold, his soul which is lifted up is not upright in him: but the just shall live by his faith.
Jesus is THE TRUTH that still speaks today. He reduced them to the “GREAT COMMANDMENT,” which teaches us to Love God and to Love those who are made in His Image.
Hebrews 1:1-2
(1) God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
(2) Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
Matthew 22:36-40
(36) Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
(37) Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
(38) This is the first and great commandment.
(39) And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.
(40) On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
The Spirit of Jesus is to lead us to all His Truth.
John 16:13
(13) Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
This new covenant anointing brings us to a place of godly fellowship with the Creator and His creation, i.e. man. The main purpose of all the commandments is LOVE.
1 Timothy 1:5
(5) Now the end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of faith unfeigned:
2 John 1:5
(5) And now I beseech thee, lady, not as though I wrote a new commandment unto thee, but that which we had from the beginning, that we love one another."
God has always willed that His children would dwell together in unity. His Spirit is the power that helps us to do just that!
Psalms 133:1-2
(1) A Song of degrees of David. Behold, how good and how pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity!
(2) It is like the precious ointment upon the head, that ran down upon the beard, even Aaron's beard: that went down to the skirts of his garments;
Jesus taught that the fullness of His commands could be best understood through two specific commandments. We find these truths in
Matthew 22:36-40. There Jesus said, "On these hang all the other commands and their understanding." From His statement we can conclude that found within these scriptures is the key to unlock our understanding of God's Word. These particular Scriptures are the root of all the commandments in the entire Bible: all that was written of Him in the Old Testament, and their fulfillment in the New Testament.
The manner in which we respond to God’s Word is important. His scripture tells us that our consequent response and adherence to His commandments equates out to our love of Him. This can be seen in the following scriptures:
John 14:15
(15) If ye love me, keep my commandments.
John 14:21
(21) He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
John 14:24
(24) He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.
Jesus showed that to love Him is to obey Him. Men must realize that when a person believes in Jesus, they then are expected to become a disciple (“disciplined student” or “learned one”) and to keep His commandments; for the belief in God is a summons to obedience to that God’s Will and Word. The greatest COMMAND (i.e. the Bible, both OT and NT) is that we are to LOVE! Love is impossible to show when you are killing a human. I am sorry you want this ‘right’ so badly. Buy nowhere does Jesus give you this in His Word.
Okay, PRAX, let's see you produce anything from the Old Testament or the New Testament that says those in the New Covenant were to use physical force. Let's see you finally put some Word where your mouth is! HA!!
I will be waiting....
What does this have to do with Jesus perfecting our faith?
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