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Old 08-24-2007, 03:30 PM
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Me too, Jeanie. That's what I think is terribly sad about it. They don't cite adultry or anything like that, so why can't they slow themselves down to save their marriage? When I was very young, I heard a pastor say, "If I save the world, but lose my family in the process, what a fool I have been." I have never forgotten those words to this day....
it should be about putting family first-

although I can not thoroughly speak for these folks why their marriage disintegrated although it does seem that ministry has gotten in the way some how.
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Old 08-24-2007, 03:38 PM
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Personality without True Doctrine or Anointing Can only take folks so far....
Got news for ya - personality WITH True Doctrine or Annointing Can only take folks so far....
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Got news for ya - personality WITH True Doctrine or Annointing Can only take folks so far....
Got news fur ya... I've seen some without personality that had true Doctrine and anointing do fairly well... You just don't see them in the Stage Lights...
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Old 08-24-2007, 03:49 PM
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It's called "grace".
Give me a break! They need to reconcile and make it right if they are going
to continue to pastor and minister. Read 1st Timothy chapter 3. They are
qualifications for being a bishop and/or a deacon.
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Got news fur ya... I've seen some without personality that had true Doctrine and anointing do fairly well... You just don't see them in the Stage Lights...
I'm not sure what is meant by "Personality." I have seen plenty of couples with true doctrine and anointing whose marriages either fell apart or continued in unhappiness.

Sometimes, if the " true doctrine" includes "No Divorce" then they just hang around and act miserable together. Their thought that they've "got it all" deceives them into thinking that there isn't more for them to receive and that there is help available.

People change and grow (or simply change). I remember one confused pastor who was approached by a couple that said they we're "going through some changes..." They detailed how they had grown apart and wanted some advice on their marriage. The pastor's best attempt at counsel was to ask them, "Well, why can't the changes be good? Why do the changes always have to be bad?"

Like that's going to change someone's circumstances. The couple went through an angry divorce - in fact more than half the couples in that church ended up in divorce including the poor confused pastor's family members. "True doctrine" is important. But you've also gotta learn some skills for coping with your daily problems. In this case neither pastor nor saints were equipped with the "basics." And that pastor was very vocal about being against "seminars" and "psychology."

The whole church was doomed, despite the fact that they all had been baptized correctly. They did that part right, for all the good it did them in the end.
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Old 08-24-2007, 04:25 PM
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Give me a break! They need to reconcile and make it right if they are going
to continue to pastor and minister. Read 1st Timothy chapter 3. They are
qualifications for being a bishop and/or a deacon.
it says one wife. if dude dont remarry, and there was no sin, in the eyes of God they are still married and are not in sin. thus he still qualifies.

she on the other hand, being not able to have a wife, has never qualified! hee hee.
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Give me a break! They need to reconcile and make it right if they are going
to continue to pastor and minister. Read 1st Timothy chapter 3. They are
qualifications for being a bishop and/or a deacon.
Yeah, and Paula can't fulfill that one about being the husband of one wife...so she should have quit 'afor she started!



































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Got news for ya - personality WITH True Doctrine or Annointing Can only take folks so far....
The true doctrine (of Christ) would not promote their own name, ministry or personality... ...and this is also a good measure of "annointing" IMHO.
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There are no guarantee's that relationship will last without both parties working towards that goal... My question is why didn't they think the relationship was worth saving above their ministry? Is this a new trend? will they be celebrated possibly for their great sacrifice?

I have a hard time feeling sorry for people who can't make a marriage work citing growing apart because of work... with exception of adultrery... I DO FEEL SORRY FOR THE PARTY THAT TRIES AND THE OTHER SIDE WON"t...

I don't feel sorry for these two at all... It's ridiculous to see these people preaching relationship when behind the scenes theirs was a shamble...

I DO feel sorry for the countless lives they have now infected because of their stupidity and their "only" option left was divorce???


The more I think about it.. the more it bugs me...

oh yeah... Money Cometh...
Alimony Cometh..........
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2 high profile "Christian" marriages coming to an end in 2 days.

Wow, no one knows what goes on behind closed doors, at least for the Whites the break up looks amiable and not violent.

Its sad because both the Weeks & the Whites church will suffer, because it will be for them like family members divorcing and will heard them them too.
If you read the "news" and believe it all, their marriages were really ending for quite some time. And in the case of the Whites it was already over, they just had not acknowledged it yet or filed. This is happening even in the UPC with people filing for divorce and unable to remain married....barring the most extreme of situations like abuse, I wonder why we have been so lenient. It this just the world creeping in? Forget dress codes....we got a bigger issue with lust...lust for power, flesh, money (ties in with power) and self. Self is the main motivator of the lust of flesh, power and money.

The early church sold their possessions and distributed to everyone that had need. We are so far removed from that idealistic beginning that it's really scary, especially to hear people justify themselves and others.

Im not saying we have to sell our goods too, but we really are quite distant from that early beginning
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