Homosexuality Or Legalism--Which Is Worse?

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by pelathais

Yes. She-bears will allow themselves to be torn apart to allow their cubs to escape. Ants will sacrifice themselves to protect a tree in which their colony nests. It would be hard to attribute human like emotions to the ants- but their hive behavior displays adaptivity that almost speaks of "wisdom."

And I probably didn't really answer your question about my criticizing the ID movement very well. I just don't trust the Moonies; and their involvement through Jonathan Wells and behind the scenes at the Discovery Institute makes me feel uncomfortable.

Michael Behe's arguments about "irreducible complexity" don't stand up to scrutiny. The whole Young Earth side of the movement is overcome by crackpots, criminals and embarrassing attempts at science.

Put yourself in my place at one time: You are to speak in front of several hundred people and follow that up with radio interviews and local talk shows. The material that you must defend as being honest and scientific comes from the Institute for Creation Research and Answers in Genesis. Go through that material and put your reputation and ministry on the line with it. You honestly have to be either:

1) A dishonest huckster who can sell anything without a conscience.

2) So unlearned that you can't really even read the material but you did look at the pictures.

3) Under some sort of spiritual deception that I can only speculate about.

And by "you" I of course don't mean "you, Mizpeh."

Thanks for being clear but I didn't take "you" as meaning me personally.

I was an atheist at one time. The delusion of atheism is a very strong demonic deception.

Common sense points to an intelligent creator as does the scriptures. Every house is built by some man, but he that made all things is God. It makes sense that when we look at things as complex as the human body, that we should deduce that its intricate design calls for a designer and not just happen stance. Disorder is the state that natural things resort to if not tended to. Houses fall into disrepair, civilizations becomes barbaric without law and government, gardens become overgrown and wild.....does anything good and orderly come out of an explosion? ie: the big bang? Do natural laws come about through destruction?

The heavens declare His glory. His handiwork is seen all around us. The wise among us understand God by the things He has made and are able to discern his ways by watching what happens to the wicked and the righteous. I never noticed these things before becoming a Christian because I was blinded and deceived. It's amazing the clarity of mind that comes when you find the truth, Jesus Christ.

I just bought Behe's book a couple of weeks ago so I can read for myself what the arguments on ID are.