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Old 08-28-2007, 04:31 PM
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LOL. Thanks, EB.

I guess technically that is true.

It's just sad that Ferd and others had to go to the depths of human cruelty to find examples like "the Crusades" and Soviet communism for something "worse than Apostolic preachers." Of course, I think there was hyperbole in that.

Again, what I said was that once I had an experience... that was bad.

Others made the leap to "Apostolic preachers" and generalized the whole thing out to apparently include all Apostolic preachers. From there we went to, "what's the worse thing that ever happened to anyone anywhere?" Well, I hope "Apostolic preachers" didn't make anyone's list. I certainly never put them into that catagory.

I did however make a rather base comparison that offended some. I regret that, however the experience remains vivid for me.
well what Lenin did to Trotsky (did I spell that right) would be more one on one for ya....

my point is that manipulation on many levels is done by men for some reason. often it is to gather power or to keep power. I still say the crusades were much about that.

and I also see that most preachers who are manipulatative do so more on a corporate scale than one on one (though it does involve that)

maybe we dont completely disagree. But no, I didnt think you were talking about all Apostolic preachers. That was for some others....
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