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Old 08-30-2007, 09:26 PM
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Perhaps I have used a poor choice of words to express myself here. I have explained it many times on AFF before, but will state it again. I believe one is saved as a result of placing their faith in Jesus Christ for salvation. Repentance is a vital part of the transformation that takes place in one's heart and mind as a result of being born again of the Spirit. If one has been truly born again they will be baptized, thus identifying them with Christ and the church. A person receives the gift of the Holy Ghost because they have become a son of God and the Spirit is the earnest of their inheritance acknowledging that sonship. The Spirit also imparts anointing and power for service in the kingdom of God.

So when I said you get to repent and be baptized and receive the gift of the Holy Ghost, I am simply stating that it is the privilege of one who has come to faith in Jesus Christ that they can repent and be forgiven, be identified with Christ and receive the power of the Holy Ghost.

Using the example of a driver's license. It is true that here in BC one must have a driver's license if they want to drive a car. However, over and over again people who abuse their license to drive are reminded by the judge that a driver's license is not a right, it's a privilege.

So what I was trying to convey was the personal feeling that I have that the whole process of being saved is not a right that I have earned, but a privilege I am given because of God's mercy and grace.
So then what is the difference you once spoke of? I say again, you spoke of that you GET TO be baptized, and that I say one MUST be baptized.

I have discussed this with you on FCF, NFCF, and now on AFF. Brother Curtis, I have to say you must have taken your first driver’s test totally in reverse.

What did you mean by the DIFFERENCE? Where is the difference, you MUST be born again of the water baptism in Jesus name and the in filling of the Holy Ghost with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.

Yes ALL humanity GETS TO, and all humanity MUST, but not all humanity WILL.

If one can lose his soul through wicked works that automatically makes the opposite true. That's why a Calvinist refuses to see that one can lose his salvation through works, because as the Calvinist says "there is nothing you can do to achieve salvation and therefore nothing you can do to lose it"

You pretty much have a stalemate with your teaching TB.

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

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