Is it right for MK's or PK's to have to go without for their parents calling??? - Page 3

Sam · #21 09-04-2007, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

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I got rid of some of my students so I could spend more quality time with my children.
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Today I am so glad for that little face that looked up to me and said, Mother we want to get to know you.
All my life as a missionary I have been consumed with a burning love for Brazil but I had to realize my family was my first mission station and if I could not be a good mother and wife I could not give the people here what they need.
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If we had not realized our children needed more quality time the story could have ended on such a bitter note.
So, I must say we that have a special high demanding call must reserve family time to save our children and families.
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I think those are important words.
Some times parents are so wrapped up in their jobs or social lives that they neglect their children. That is wrong. That same neglect can happen in the home of a minister or Christian worker also. He or she can be so absorbed in their work that the family is neglected. I think 1 Timothy 5:8 can apply here. There are certain obligations we parents have and if we neglect our families we are less than what God wants us to be.

Jesus is supposed to have first place in our lives
but
the church, or our work in the church, is not Jesus
and does not deserve the devotion which Jesus deserves.

I had a pastor who used to say, "Some times we get so wrapped up in church work that we forget the work of the church."

Sister Alvear · #22 09-04-2007, 07:39 PM

Look I only asked for you to pray that the child could make adjustments and was trying to say that she is scared. I am not begging anyone for money. It is true that in all walks of life children have to make adjustments. Her brother is doing fine. I think a lot has to do with the fact she was involved in so many things at our local church here and in some of the village churches.
She has lived in this area since a baby so this area is her world.

She is now in a jungle city full of indians, strange people and she is afraid and lonely.
Some of you I know would do quite well with wild indians...in fact I stood before a tribe of cannibal indains when I was 20 years old and told them about Jesus. It is my kind of stuff...sleeping in the jungle, looking for snakes, picking up frogs...but that is not everybody´s cup of tea.

On our last trip up there the indians were talking about killing the white people and she hears those stories and she as a child is afraid. I understand her fear and the fear of many new missionaries that come to the mission fields.

The American that was with us told me she had never been so scared in a place in all her life and she is a world traveller.

more later..

Sister Alvear · #23 09-04-2007, 07:56 PM

I am sure my son is doing all he can for his family and I am staying in touch with them as long as they are not in the jungle.
This son (adopted) is the one that his mother was a national missionary from our church and was killed by people that hated christians. He is very much aware of the risks that go with the call of God. He prayed for many months and took his family up there to see that area and then they came back and prayed for months.
There are no Jesus Name churches within several hundred miles of them that we know about. God is already opening doors and they have begun services in 2 places.

Sister Alvear · #24 09-04-2007, 08:19 PM

I once heard a good sermon WHEN YOUR SACRIFICE BECOMES YOUR DOWNFALL. The sermon talked about pastors that lost their children...

I have never forgot that sermon...

MissBrattified · #25 09-04-2007, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

Look I only asked for you to pray that the child could make adjustments and was trying to say that she is scared. I am not begging anyone for money. It is true that in all walks of life children have to make adjustments. Her brother is doing fine. I think a lot has to do with the fact she was involved in so many things at our local church here and in some of the village churches.
She has lived in this area since a baby so this area is her world.

She is now in a jungle city full of indians, strange people and she is afraid and lonely.
Some of you I know would do quite well with wild indians...in fact I stood before a tribe of cannibal indains when I was 20 years old and told them about Jesus. It is my kind of stuff...sleeping in the jungle, looking for snakes, picking up frogs...but that is not everybody´s cup of tea.

On our last trip up there the indians were talking about killing the white people and she hears those stories and she as a child is afraid. I understand her fear and the fear of many new missionaries that come to the mission fields.

The American that was with us told me she had never been so scared in a place in all her life and she is a world traveller.

more later..

Sister Alvear, I'm sure the child needs all the prayer she can get...along with her parents.

That's quite different from what Malvaro seems to be suggesting, which is...."Are her parents wrong for subjecting her to a life she didn't ask for?" That's all we're addressing. No one (that I know of) is faulting you for requesting prayer.

Sherri · #26 09-04-2007, 09:04 PM

I know the trauma emotionally that our 13 year old son (at that time) went through when we left the only hometown and home church that he had ever known to move here. He was angry with us and felt like he was having to leave everything familiar, including all of his friends and youth group. What he felt was NOTHING I'm sure, compared to this little girl in the jungles of Brazil.

We did not belittle his feelings, because they were very real to him and he does not like change. We just had to pray and trust God for him to adjust and make new friends here and for the church to grow and a youth group to be started here. Now, almost six years later, he is a very happy and well adjusted young man gone to college. I asked him the other day what he considered "home" to be and he said "Jackson, of course". I needed to hear that, just to know that in his mind, it was ok to be here. He now loves this city and this church and has many friends here.

I will be praying for this precious little girl. God has her in His hands and He will help her to adjust.

stmatthew · #27 09-04-2007, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

Look I only asked for you to pray that the child could make adjustments and was trying to say that she is scared. I am not begging anyone for money. It is true that in all walks of life children have to make adjustments. Her brother is doing fine. I think a lot has to do with the fact she was involved in so many things at our local church here and in some of the village churches.
She has lived in this area since a baby so this area is her world.

She is now in a jungle city full of indians, strange people and she is afraid and lonely.
Some of you I know would do quite well with wild indians...in fact I stood before a tribe of cannibal indains when I was 20 years old and told them about Jesus. It is my kind of stuff...sleeping in the jungle, looking for snakes, picking up frogs...but that is not everybody´s cup of tea.

On our last trip up there the indians were talking about killing the white people and she hears those stories and she as a child is afraid. I understand her fear and the fear of many new missionaries that come to the mission fields.

The American that was with us told me she had never been so scared in a place in all her life and she is a world traveller.

more later..

This post has me about weeping.

Sis Alvear, what is this little lady's name? I want to take her on my heart in prayer.

Kae · #28 09-04-2007, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CC1

Children are very resiliant and adaptable. I believe that as long as a child receives love and attention from the parents they can adjust to other circumstances no matter how tough they may be.

It does take time though and I think that is where Sister Alvear's granddaughter is at right now. A time of grieving over unwanted change in her life. Hopefully her parents will make it an adventure for her and soon the good will outweigh the bad.

I think the bold part says it all. I heard a story once of a father that included his children in everything that he did. They were part of his life, not just in his life. He wasn't a Christian when his children were young and he did drugs. His children did them too. Not advocating that children do drugs just making a point. Whatever he did his children did too. When he became a Christian his children were in their teen years, but there was no question they became Christians too. They loved and respected him because when they were little they were little people to him not just kids.

A lot of times children get in the way and are sent out to play when they should be learning to be an adult. Which is what they crave.

Trouvere · #29 09-04-2007, 11:31 PM

God knows who to send.Sister Alvear you are my kind of woman.I promise you there is more to be afraid of in the city then out in the jungle.Here we
just call them seriel killers.There you at least know what you are up against.

I moved a family several times.The daughter had about three card board boxes of nothing while the mama ran around all night with men smoking crack.
You could say she was accomplishing her mission.The child with christian parents however who lacks a few material things has something bigger.She
has God and with him anything is possible.

Sister Alvear · #30 09-06-2007, 09:55 AM

Hello, my friends...
Am in another part of Brazil today at a lovely church building/ complex...one of ours but we do not pastor here...one of our sons is pastor...

The little one up in the jungle...her name is SABRINA...I named her after Sabrina Wurmbrand my friend...(my daughter in law let me pick out the name)

I hope she grows up to be a great women...like SW was..