When the Word of the Lord comes to an individual, there is only one that should judge whether or not it in truth, a Word from the Lord. That ONE is to whom the Word was directed. Others are not to be called in as judges on the matter. Those that would judge the Word given to an individual are out of order unless that Word was to them personally.
If the Word of the Lord is to the church, let one then prophesy and let the others that hear it, then judge. It is their scripturally given right to do it.
Sorry.... I made the last post minutes before leaving the house and haven't gotten back on the computer till this afternoon. NOW I am leaving for the store for an hour or so and will be back a bit later.
But in the meantime there are MANY gifts of the spirit. One that I have been given (and it is as much of a curse as it is a blessing) is the gift of discernment. It is a gift that ranks right up there with "patience" when it comes to the pain of constantly being tested. Oh, how I would LOVE to be able to fall into emotional extacy over everything that cannot be immediately explained and not have little things like this bother me.... But they do.
When a MAJOR tragedy happens and someone seems to magically "know" what happened, what I find more amazing then the "word of knowledge" is the fact that the guy didn't know about the tragedy ahead of time! Something as big as that impresses me about as much as someone who says "and the next card you pull from the top will be the queen of diamonds" -after being given a minute to rifle through the deck and see what order they were in. But as long as the prediction is made with authority, volume, and in a scary voice, the crowds "oooohhhhhhhssss!" at the wonderment of it all. Most are afraid to even question the validity for fear of committing blasphemy. In fact the one making the statements is protected by a house of logic that precludes the possibility of questioning.
Again, I haven't read any of the posts since making my last and really need to run for a bit but I suspect I am in the extreme minority here, but be that as it may I sense something in Denmark and it ain't pretty.
Sorry.... I made the last post minutes before leaving the house and haven't gotten back on the computer till this afternoon. NOW I am leaving for the store for an hour or so and will be back a bit later.
But in the meantime there are MANY gifts of the spirit. One that I have been given (and it is as much of a curse as it is a blessing) is the gift of discernment. It is a gift that ranks right up there with "patience" when it comes to the pain of constantly being tested. Oh, how I would LOVE to be able to fall into emotional extacy over everything that cannot be immediately explained and not have little things like this bother me.... But they do.
When a MAJOR tragedy happens and someone seems to magically "know" what happened, what I find more amazing then the "word of knowledge" is the fact that the guy didn't know about the tragedy ahead of time! Something as big as that impresses me about as much as someone who says "and the next card you pull from the top will be the queen of diamonds" -after being given a minute to rifle through the deck and see what order they were in. But as long as the prediction is made with authority, volume, and in a scary voice, the crowds "oooohhhhhhhssss!" at the wonderment of it all. Most are afraid to even question the validity for fear of committing blasphemy. In fact the one making the statements is protected by a house of logic that precludes the possibility of questioning.
Again, I haven't read any of the posts since making my last and really need to run for a bit but I suspect I am in the extreme minority here, but be that as it may I sense something in Denmark and it ain't pretty.
I'm afraid your gift of discernment sounds more like the gift of doubt. Sad that you can't see and understand how God can and does work.
Truly sad, because it is a joy to see the hand of God when He does these types of things.
I hope your faith with grow in time to accept that God is still well able to do these things.
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Happy moments, PRAISE GOD.
Difficult moments, SEEK GOD.
Quiet moments, WORSHIP GOD.
Painful moments, TRUST GOD.
Every moment, THANK GOD.
Sorry.... I made the last post minutes before leaving the house and haven't gotten back on the computer till this afternoon. NOW I am leaving for the store for an hour or so and will be back a bit later.
But in the meantime there are MANY gifts of the spirit. One that I have been given (and it is as much of a curse as it is a blessing) is the gift of discernment. It is a gift that ranks right up there with "patience" when it comes to the pain of constantly being tested. Oh, how I would LOVE to be able to fall into emotional extacy over everything that cannot be immediately explained and not have little things like this bother me.... But they do.
When a MAJOR tragedy happens and someone seems to magically "know" what happened, what I find more amazing then the "word of knowledge" is the fact that the guy didn't know about the tragedy ahead of time! Something as big as that impresses me about as much as someone who says "and the next card you pull from the top will be the queen of diamonds" -after being given a minute to rifle through the deck and see what order they were in. But as long as the prediction is made with authority, volume, and in a scary voice, the crowds "oooohhhhhhhssss!" at the wonderment of it all. Most are afraid to even question the validity for fear of committing blasphemy. In fact the one making the statements is protected by a house of logic that precludes the possibility of questioning.
Again, I haven't read any of the posts since making my last and really need to run for a bit but I suspect I am in the extreme minority here, but be that as it may I sense something in Denmark and it ain't pretty.
Cynicism and skepticism are not discernment.
__________________ "Then answered Amos, and said to Amaziah, I was no prophet, neither was I a prophet's son; but I was an herdman, and a gatherer of sycomore fruit:
And the LORD took me as I followed the flock, and the LORD said unto me, Go, prophesy unto my people Israel."
I discern that almost everyone here discerned the samething that you discerned.
I feel a witness in my spirit with what you are saying.
__________________ "Then answered Amos, and said to Amaziah, I was no prophet, neither was I a prophet's son; but I was an herdman, and a gatherer of sycomore fruit:
And the LORD took me as I followed the flock, and the LORD said unto me, Go, prophesy unto my people Israel."
Is is BORN of discernment though.... Something I have witnessed and disseminated diligently!
Again, it is a blessing/curse combo. I would LOVE to get lost in emotionalism and forget the world from time to time. It is like a 1 1/2 ton weight on my shoulder. But I can't. And it is not just fiery preaching either.... I have the same reaction to certain motivational speakers, pep rallies, and the lone guy sitting on a milk crate trying to incite a crowd. All emotion but little to no spirit. However I have felt palpable moves of the spirit in some of the quietest times and from some of the quietest preachers.
I'm afraid your gift of discernment sounds more like the gift of doubt. Sad that you can't see and understand how God can and does work.
Truly sad, because it is a joy to see the hand of God when He does these types of things.
I hope your faith with grow in time to accept that God is still well able to do these things.
I was thinking more of the gift of Suspicion
__________________ If I do something stupid blame the Lortab!
Is is BORN of discernment though.... Something I have witnessed and disseminated diligently!
Again, it is a blessing/curse combo. I would LOVE to get lost in emotionalism and forget the world from time to time. It is like a 1 1/2 ton weight on my shoulder. But I can't. And it is not just fiery preaching either.... I have the same reaction to certain motivational speakers, pep rallies, and the lone guy sitting on a milk crate trying to incite a crowd. All emotion but little to no spirit. However I have felt palpable moves of the spirit in some of the quietest times and from some of the quietest preachers.
Cynicism is not born of God given discernment.
That comes from somewhere else.
Cheer up, Atlas; there is help for you, but you will have to purge yourself of some pride and presumption first.
__________________ "Then answered Amos, and said to Amaziah, I was no prophet, neither was I a prophet's son; but I was an herdman, and a gatherer of sycomore fruit:
And the LORD took me as I followed the flock, and the LORD said unto me, Go, prophesy unto my people Israel."
I'm sure snake oil salesmen from the last couple of centuries would accuse people of having too much pride and presumption when they did not believe them also...
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