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Old 09-10-2007, 06:46 AM
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If "Jesus name" baptism is the only baptism to be saved.....

1. what happens to all the people that lived and died before 1913 when the Jesus name baptism "reemerge" in modern times?
When one understands that baptism has nothing to do with salvation before God the question of invocation becomes academic.

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2. why was this saving baptism hidden from the world, if its the only baptism that can save us?
While I do hold that baptism is not part of the Gospel, not saving as relating to the soul, and is not the occasion for sin remission, I still see plenty of evidence to hold that it should be performed by using the "Jesus Name" invocation and that it was not "hidden from the world" until recent times. NT saving faith was to be directed to God THROUGH Christ. Baptism was the time when an individual was to openly declare his repentance and faith in Jesus Christ.

Even trinitarians baptized using the Jesus name invocation. In fact, Frank Ewart began looking deeper into the nature of God only after hearing a trinitarian man, R.E. McAlister, preach a message on Jesus name baptism. McAlister, however, in no way connected this topic with the nature of God. He was using the issue to head off a growing heresy in the church which demanded that a baptismal candidate be dunked three distinct times rather than simply once.

A quick note concerning men prior to Luther and justification by faith alone:

It's my impression that Luther began to realize justification by faith alone when reading the works of Augustine (354-430AD). I suggest a book by Thomas Oden called the Justification Reader for examples of the justification by faith position from the time of Christ to Luther. If I remember correctly, Oden gets much of his information from Vatican archives which had not been released for translation unto recent years. Prior witnesses agreeing with Luther's ultimate realization were abundant.
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